[Closed] A trade where you can **** up a job and still get paid?

You should talk to TJ about roof work in Edinburgh.

CEO of carillion?

Forum software design?

Tattoo Artist?

politician

Premier league football manager,wait a few weeks and you will get a new job too,win win:)

Gigolo

Prison manager. (governor) They do it all the time, 'manage' to get a jail into a state of chaos & not only still get paid but usually promoted as well.

A lot of "bricklayers" at the moment. Not paid by me until its right I might add, however tomorrow we play the knock it down and start again game...

Prime minister.

Dentist

Politician.  Banker.  Blue chip CEO

These guys make rough tradesmen look like real amateurs.  Rip off thousands of people at the same time and often walk off with a lump sum and a tasty pension to boot.

Oh, and the dentist I had as a yoof.

minister for hedgehogs?

Just looking at builders, and am put off the one nearing retirement for similar reasons to OP

forum developer 😉

Well, not 1 proper reply.

I am blessed.

Must correspond with the level of knowledge

Blast. Junkyard beat me to it.

@esselgruntfuttock

Wasn't that the principle of the Brittas empire.
Screw it up then get promoted to a position where you could cause less chaos?

In answer to the OP just about any profession, trade, job or vocation. At least for a while.

Public sector employee.

As for a proper reply, do you know for certain it's the repair that has failed?

@cynic-al
"Roofing. Seems they get away with no warranty on any repair job" - I wouldn't know, I've never seen a roofer I was prepared to employ, on H&S grounds.

@wrightyson
"tomorrow we play the knock it down and start again game" I tried that once, the client came down on us saying "this will delay the project, etc". So we let it stand. And then had to put up with the client complaining about shoddy brickwork for the next 2 years.

Wrightyson...great big-hitting there, I'll pm you the details of the brotherhood

What work did they do 4-5 months ago?

What promises were made then?

What is wrong now?

All warranties are only worth something whilst the company is there unless its underwritten by someone - you're a lawyer surely you were aware of that when you agreed the original work?    I think the National Federation of Roofers (or whatever they are called) can underwrite their members work.

Anything at board level. Different rules for the 'old' boys

<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px; background-color: #eeeeee;">Blast. Junkyard beat me to it.</span>

Nope. 😉

Council Building Control Officers -absolute bunch of incompetent halfwits with no idea on building regulations.

Hayzoos, Cynic-Al, you are the touchiest wee soul, aren’t you. Maybe ther are better mediums to express your angst through?

I’m anawer to your question, though, the answer is book editors.

You’re welcome.

Anyone who works in Government / Civil Service? I've seen some startling failures and they simply getted shuffled off to create mayhem elsewhere.

Poly I am not a lawyer.

Guess what they claimed to fix the leak that is now leaking again.

I had though there might be some protection for consumers as there is with goods.

DirtyLyle.... actually I can't be bothered. Already made that point many times.

Football club badge designers

Guy in local council didn't bother to apply to central government for extra help for the (increasing amount of) homeless in our town last winter.

Two people died of hypothermia on the main high street. Head of council said he still had full confidence in the guy.

Tory council as you might have guessed.

Automotive Engineering Manager - come in, change everything, nothing works, get promoted!!

STW forum designer - wtf are the emoticons now???

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Politician. Banker. Blue chip CEO
These guys make rough tradesmen look like real amateurs. Rip off thousands of people at the same time and often walk off with a lump sum and a tasty pension to boot.
Oh, and the dentist I had as a yoof**quotes off**

So very much this and definitely the dentist.

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Sorry for tarring you with that brush!  My forum memory must be rusty.
<p style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; line-height: 1.2em; color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Guess what they claimed to fix the leak that is now leaking again.</p>
Did they say it would now last as long as the rest of the roof?  The thing about patched repairs on any material is often it just moves the point of weakness along slightly.
<p style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; line-height: 1.2em; color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I had though there might be some protection for consumers as there is with goods.</p>
There is, but it’s hard enough to enforce with products, never mind services.

Imagine someone goes to their LBS with a puncture.  The LBS says we can patch it for £5 or replace the tube for £9.  Customer says patch is fine.   Four months later they come back and say “it’s leaking again, you’ll need to fix it for free”.  Whilst contrived and rather different values involved that is the issue you have.  Is it even the original repair that is leaking or a bit further along which has the same symptoms?  If it is the original repair was it reasonable to expect a permanent repair for the price paid?  You can easily extend the analogy to a car garage where the prices are much more like a roof.  If a garage replaced a brake calliper for you you might reasonably expect it to replace it if it developed a fault a week later.  Five months might create an interesting discussion but would still be likely at good garages. But if the disk needed replacing, the pipe corroded, or the calliper on another wheel developed a fault you wouldn’t have a legitimate complaint even if the garage had looked over the whole system and said it is fine.

I hate leak detection/fixing jobs. Water will track along inside a roof for surprisingly long distances & make it really hard to pinpoint the source.
Plus as the above post shows, you fix one leak & all of a sudden you become liable for any future ones in the eyes of the client.

Weather forecaster !

Guess what they claimed to fix the leak that is now leaking again.

How do you know it's the same one ?

BT.

Third party software suppliers. In fact you get paid twice.

- Receive spec
- Charge to complete work
- Do coding
- "Test"
- Supply code
- Code does not meet spec
- Charge to fix code

Any clinical grade, and higher management in the NHS, with increasing balls up coverage the higher up you get.

IHN - we must be doing it wrong!  We don't charge (again) if the product doesn't meet the spec.  We do charge if the spec wasn't quite what the client wanted even though its what they told us/signed off on!

[i]IHN – we must be doing it wrong! We don’t charge (again) if the product doesn’t meet the spec.[/i]

To be fair, I should have said 'some' software suppliers.

[i]We do charge if the spec wasn’t quite what the client wanted even though its what they told us/signed off on![/i]

Like that ever happens... 😉

Pretty much any trade.