[Closed] "A large black coffee, please"

It would be.

Dammit people! We need to stop the rot right here, right now. From now on, _please_ start using polite, proper English and not this lazy way of talking and thinking.

After all, they are colonials.

latin american Spanish - central & south america.

Nice ironic that the distinction between New and Old world Spanish is perfectly accepted on this thread... 🙂

PS Stop bloody whining, it's only marketing and it has been going on for a good couple of hundred years.

PPS Starbucks is an American company, are they allowed to be Americanised?

PPPS In actual fact they are Italianising themselves rather than Americanising. Grande, Venti, Latte etc etc.

LOL at this thread!

Whatever happened to a nice cup of tea....

What do you do if you actually [i]like[/i] lattes?

molgrips - Member
What do you do if you actually like lattes?

Well, I think you should tell your parents first. Break it to them gently, as "coming out" can be traumatic for a family.

Whatever happened to a nice cup of tea....

They are still available. Even in Starbucks.

Btw if I could make billions upon billions of dollars selling expensive coffees with pretentiuos names, I am sure I would. They must be doing something right, since they are a massive company and Dave's Burger Van on the A49 isn't.

Well, I think you should tell your parents first. Break it to them gently, as "coming out" can be traumatic for a family.

Yeah, my mum's staunchly cappucino. And my dad only drinks tea. Oh the shame.

@ Zokes

[i]That would be Americanisation then?[/i]

Not according to the OED [url= http://http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50007157?single=1&query_type=word&queryword=americanization&first=1&max_to_show=10 ][/url]

[i] Nothing to do with living in Yorkshire...

I surprised the choice extends to any more than 'do you want that in a cup or a mug' and 'Sugar and milk are on the table behind you' if you live in Yorkshire. [/i]

I worked in leeds for two years, the place is jam packed full of arsey coffeeshops who refuse to use the terms, 'small, medium or large', and while i'm sure plenty of yorkshiremen would argue that Leeds is not part of Yorkshire, technically it is.

@ Mattie_H

I stand corrected! I was vaguely aware there are a few actual 'z' uses for 'isations' in English - I guess that's one of them then....

@ Zokes

Even the word itself is Americanized!

Just try asking for a cup of tea without the milk in with the teabag while it brews...
'we don't do it like that'...'OK, black tea please'...'grump!'...'changed my mind, can I have some milk please...' 🙄

'we don't do it like that'

Now that's great customer service. You'll have it how we do it, and like it.

Funnily enough, the aforementioned mal-verbiated Americanized coffee chains bend over backwards to do your drink exactly how you like it...

oooh, mocha please 😉

Pulled into a McD's drivethru for a coffe:-
"white coffee please"
"sorry weve no white coffee, but I can do you a black with milk"
"EH?" ❓

While we're on the subject, since when did the minimum amount of coffee required become a bucketful ffs ? Small just isn't an option, it's either medium (or whatever that may be in Italian) or large and both of those are way too much.

Does my swede in.

Oh no trailmonkey! You're not one of these PITAs who says your portions are too big so the rest of us with healthy appetites go hungry or have to spend a fortune, are you? 😉

tl:dr

was it a costa/starschmucks/nero?

you will probably find it is due to them HAVING to ask.
they have a script, they have to stick to it or they get penalised?

she may have felt like a twerp asking if you would like your coffee "with room"
some people want a black coffee and go and put milk in it themselves.
some people just want a white coffee!
some people want it FULL of black coffee.

i resent having to have an "americano" which is in now way the same as a regular black coffee.

humph.
itll do though, i guess.

nehoo, back on point, i new a chap who worked in millets
you know when they pounce on you as you enter and ask if they can help?
it really gets my goat, WELL, according to my mate, if they get caught NOT asking a certain number of times, they get a warning, and then fired.

Funnily enough, the aforementioned mal-verbiated Americanized coffee chains bend over backwards to do your drink exactly how you like it...

Only if it is coffee or some coffee related drink. If you like tea made with boiling water (rather than just some quite hot water off the coffee machine), with the teabag put in before the milk and left for a moment to brew, and then milk put in after it. Or god forbid, if you wanted a pot of tea made with leaves (or even a pot with a teabag in), they won't do it at all.

Joe

colnagokid - Member
Pulled into a McD's drivethru for a coffe:-
"white coffee please"
"sorry weve no white coffee, but I can do you a black with milk"
"EH?"

Small just isn't an option

It is in Starbucks, called a short. They just don't put it on the board (which I thoroughly disagree with despite otherwise supporting them). It goes short, tall, grande, venti which makes a bit more sense.

If you like tea made with boiling water

A Frenchman trying to tell an Englishman how to drink tea! Wonders never cease.

you will probably find it is due to them HAVING to ask.
they have a script, they have to stick to it or they get penalised?

short, tall, grande, venti which makes a bit more sense.

noooo.

im tall, im in the upper percentiles of the population in height.
tall buildings are generally the ones where the top floors are closest to the sky.

same goes for girraffes.

tall is in the wrong place there! im sure of it :p

[IMG] [/IMG]

I don't think Starbucks has that kind of McJob attitude tbh. It's apparently not a bad place to work.

Molgrips the Short order in Starbucks is pretty well known really. I was told that it wasn't on the board so that the folks that know think it's a special thing, makes them more loyal to Starbucks...cheesy American marketing...

A Frenchman trying to tell an Englishman how to drink tea! Wonders never cease

Quite amusing. The continental tea experience :-

A Liptons Yellow Label tea bag, dangling in half a cup of luke warm water.

Served with a fresh sneer.

[chortles at MTT] 😀

As an Englishman, I have never been served a cup of tea in France which worked for me. If that's how they like it, that's fine.

In my recent experience, the caff on Newport (South Wales) station does the best tea of anywhere with pretensions to be a coffee bar. Despite serving a range of frothy-coffee milkshakes and being run by a rather flamboyant Welsh lad with facial piercings it actually featured a big, hot pot full of properly brewed tea, which he poured into a cup and added milk to before charging a sensible amount of money for.

Reminds me of that great scene in Pretty Woman....

[i]Hollister: Exactly how obscene an amount of money were you talking about? Just… profane, or really offensive?
Edward: Really offensive.
Hollister: [to himself] I like him so much.

Hollister: Mr. Lewis? How's it going so far?
Edward: Pretty well, I think. I think we need some major sucking up.
Hollister: Very well, sir. You're… not only handsome, but a powerful man. I could see the second you walked in here, you were someone to reckon with…[/i]

I think that roughly translates to something along the lines of pay peanuts get monkies. If you want good service go somewhere were you pay for it is my best advice.

Try asking for a black decaffinated coffee in Starbucks. They oblige you to play 20 questions in order to work out which variation of their multitude of crappy drinks make up a black decaf (in my defence, it was for a friend).

Mind you, the "original" Starbucks site in Seattle is surprisingly bullshit free (I did a severely jetlagged coffee run at 6am one Sunday just after getting over there).

Pulled into a McD's drivethru for a coffe:-
"white coffee please"
"sorry weve no white coffee, but I can do you a black with milk"
"EH?"

That would be because they are busy, the milk in the coffee machine has just been refilled and dropped below the safe dispensing temperature for heated milk.
So to get around this they use their brains and offer black coffee with cold milk.

How do i know this?
I am a service tech for the company who supply all the above mentioned companies and a lot more with there espresso equipment.

Working in various coffee outlets fixing makes you realise just how rude some customers are, if the machine is broken why swear at the person who can't give you your coffee? it's not their fault!

Americano with milk = black coffee with room to add my preferred amount of milk

Christ I can't believe I took part in this thread

willard - Member
Triple espresso in a mug. Twice. On an empty stomach. It's like the bastard son of napalm and Red Bull.

Then try walking around a busy shopping street without acting like Cornholio from Beavis and Butthead. almost spat my coffee out when i read this,nice one willard!!! 😀

willard - Member
Triple espresso in a mug. Twice. On an empty stomach. It's like the bastard son of napalm and Red Bull.

Then try walking around a busy shopping street without acting like Cornholio from Beavis and Butthead. i almost spat my coffee out when i read that!!!hillarious,nice one willard!!! 😀

sorry i thought my comment hadn't been uploaded,so did it again!!!apologies!!! 😳

leggyblonde - Member

double ristretto aP you big softy!

You ignorant, double ristretto?! WTF! Ristretto, than another ristretto, you can't have a double. Christ Almighty!

It was pointed out in the Independent today that if you ask for a Latte in Italy you will be given a glass of milk.

And if you ask for 'lartay' they won't know what you want.

It was pointed out in the Independent today that if you ask for a Latte in Italy you will be given a glass of milk.

Well that's bloody ignorant of the Italians
🙂

well in 4 years of living in UK I have yet to come across a cup of tea that
Was made with real tea, not shity bags
Actually wasn't overbrewed, bitter and too hot to drink

When I asked to people what tea they wanted (green/black/insert different flavour) they all replied normal WTF is normal tea you are ignorant idtent.
However I have made proper tea several time for british people they all asked for milk, to what I replied "you are not meant to put milk in tea try it without first and if you want I'll had some"
Guess what no one asked for milk.

Then if a brit can comment about coffee I can't see why a french cant comment about tea...

Then if a brit can comment about coffee I can't see why a french cant comment about tea...

He does have a point....

why swear at the person who can't give you your coffee? it's not their fault! Yes it is . they represent the company in all its aspects