or that weight loss in general is solely about [b]moving more and eating less.[/b] Those who cling to their pitchforks have failed to read this or have selectively failed to read this.
http://singletrackworld.com/members/solo/profile/
Name solo
About Me Eat better, move around a bit
I've also lost over two stone and a half stone (though over a much longer period than the OP) using the "unscientific" method of Move More, Eat Less.
I've lost weight while eating more, which is probably even more unscientific 🙂 Training for a marathon does that, apparently.
OP: well done, it's a great feeling when you start needing to buy new trousers, and you run out of holes on your belt.
Is this thread for real? I think if users had their age against their username we'd pretty much see the issue. 8 year olds arguing with grown men. Right I'm off out in the sunshine to maintain my weight.
But its easier for the lazy to have a pop at someone who has spent their own money on books and read up on the subject.
Aaaah, a self-taught expert then?
Isn't this how Einstein became an expert?
bearnecessities - Member
or that weight loss in general is solely about moving more and eating less. Those who cling to their pitchforks have failed to read this or have selectively failed to read this.
> http://singletrackworld.com/members/solo/profile/Name solo
About Me Eat better, move around a bit
Good work 🙂
Also, Solo looks like Voldemort
Also, Solo looks like Voldemort
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Congratulations Glupton! You've lost weight, haven't done any bizarre diets and you feel better for it.
5 weeks ago I was 13st. Then I went on holiday, drank lots of beer, ate lots of food and did no exercise. Now I'm 14st. Probably just a coincidence though.
That'll be that foreign air.
BTW I lost over a stone over winter. I didn't cut out any foods (so if I ate a whole pack of Tunnocks that a rep left) I'd just reduce my next meal. Rode shitloads though.
Well done glupton
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Solo - Memberwhat I like most about the morons on STW is .......
You are displaying a stunning lack of self-awareness Solo if you are accusing [i]others[/i] of being morons.
As your repeated use of laughing emoticons and hugely arrogant, judgmental, and childish, ridicule,
on this thread, clearly betrays.
Bizarrely, the only health professionals I've ever spoken with, namely doctors and gym staff have been strong advocates of this "eat less, move more" diet the OP used.
Maybe whitepapers don't still get written on it as it's painfully obvious and must have been known for a good few thousand years. Come to think of it, I've noticed a distinct lack of recent evidence that the earth isn't flat. Makes you wonder?
Well done Glupton.
I've adopted the same method & lost half a stone in 14 days.
Good innit?
More importantly, does your aunty know you're doing 300km audaxes on her tricycle?
OP - Well done great effort!! 🙂
Solo - you have indeed come across as a right twunt... Oh well, some on every forum!...
well done mate, good effort. can be hard to be disciplined sometimes cant it, but worth it in the end 😀
on the off-chance that you return to this:
No, not at all - I'm satisfied that you congratulated the OP but, on challenging the "science" of what and how he's achieved, all you've done is imply that he's wrong without making any attempt to state the correct position or, god forbid, actually help anyone to achieve something similar/betterSolo - Member
[i]Just seems a shame, and a teeny tiny bit condescending, to do so[/i][b]Well, then like most here, and not surprisingly so. You've missed the parts where I've congratulated the OP on their weight loss, but only disputed that its only fat thats been lost[/b]
Who else wonders how much of a hangover Solo has this morning? 🙂
Btw, congrats to the OP
I've noticed that most of the people who don't believe in "eat less, move more" are fat bastards.
Basic premise -"That may work in practice, but it doesn't fit my theory, therefore it cannot be true, bring me another doughnut."
What. No idave? How can this be!!!
But I believe it and I'm 18st!
i get what solos saying tbh , its just the way he says it.
he is saying that if i exercise and diet to lose weight THEN return to my sedentary life style my body will still be in fight mode and pile on the pounds incase i decide to do it again - there are heaps and heaps of studies proving this.
it just proves that moving more and eating less is a lifestyle not a quick fix - how it should be.
yoyo dieting is less healthy than just being healthy shocker.
This is the thing.
The most important part of weight-loss.
Its diet & lifestyle. I don't mean dieting, things like weight-watcher et al are a con.
You have to have a more concerted effort towards weight-loss rather than just cutting out the crap & eating salads for a month.
Well done OP! Now for the hard part - keeping it up..
Yes we all agree the hard part is keeping it off, having lost weight regained it etc myself as I think most people who have put a few pounds on have been through this.
Changing your lifestyle and realising where you made mistakes in the past, certainly for me its when I stop training I do not moderate my diet accordingly.
However most if not all of what Solo said in this thread was for effect, rather than coming across as in any way intelligent he contradicted what is said in his profile, challenged the OP and made himself out to be the moron he seem to see on STW.
We all have our moments but this forum would be a lot better place if more people acted like adults. A healthy debate is fine and we can all agree to disagree, there are some great professionals on here and some highly intelligent individuals who offer help and support and generally good advice.
If the OP had been of lesser character he may have been reaching for the fridge after that onslaught.
We should be supportive of a fellow STWers as we have seen great threads on here when people have needed help and support. As most have done, congratulating the OP on an achievement and also encouraging him to keep it off.
STW is a great place with a wealth of talent, unfortunately there are a few who let it down. Good to see though that the collective have pointed out the error of his ways.
Has anyone else (sorry, not read [i]all[/i] posts) made the assumption that Solo = TandemJeremy?
Interesting use of alternative log-in? similar argumelympian style of the legend himself?
And he would've got away with it if it wasn't for..... 🙂
To glupton - top effort that man.
I am now 110 kilos after being 125 when I made a concerted effort at sustainable eating habits that matched my exercise, which was back in September. Slow and steady, but seems to be sticking.(cutting out a [s]glass[/s] goblet of wine every evening was the most recent big breakthrough)
Keep it up, I am struggling at the mo, but the lure of more riding, and nice fresh veggies from local farm, is helping.
Kev
Solo is not TJ.
TJ was looking in on the thread last night and told me that he didnt think much of Solo's argument.
🙁
*goes back to proper work, not Columbo style sleuthing* 🙂
Yes, as good as it is for the OP to have lost that extra weight, the real test is in making sure it doesn't creep back on. Weight loss has to be done over the long term and in the context of sustained lifestyle change for that loss to remain permanent. Rebound from rapid weight loss could see you putting on more than you lost. So, good luck and more power to the OP!
Though there are extremely complex reasons for the debates going on in dieticians' labs, for the layperson it's not bad advice to advocate the dictum move more and eat less rubbish.
As with any unhealthy foods, the same goes for any new scientifically-based weight loss trend - take it in moderation! E.g. eat less sugar, fewer carbs, less alcohol. Stay within healthy calorie limits. Exercise more.
But really, at the end of the day, we're all different. What works for one human body doesn't work for others. Solo should probably apologise for his one-man flame-war, even on that basis.
For me, the difficulty is understanding how much food to eat in comparison to the amount of exercise.
I've never really done a large amount of training. At the moment I'm training for the Marmotte, so have had a huge increase over what I am used to. The result was an increase in my body weight, and decrease in performance as I wasn't eating enough. I've now dropped weight due to increase in eating.
It is amazing how muc you delude yourself about your weight. I was absolutely adamant when I was at my heaviest that I was just a bit over weight, and was just big boned. When I got down to 80, I thought I was basically there and no need to drop any more. Now I'm under 75, I can see that I still have fat around my stomach and I would like to get down to actually having a 6 pack for the first time in my life.
I just need to watch this, especially once I reduce my training again and ensure I make this new lower weight my normal range.
Not read all the bickering posts but well done on your weight loss.
Since 1st January this year I've lost just under 7kg by using the 'doing more and eating less' method. Down from just under 74kg to 67kg.
[i]Boardinbob - cycling burns around 1000kcal/hr[/i]
Thats a fairly optimistic figure.
"I would like to get down to actually having a 6 pack for the first time in my life."
Not the greatest idea - the fat% needed to keep a 6 pack visible is unsustainable long term IMO , i found i picked up every illness going at the time too.
12% is the often quoted figure, which is not low for a healthy male. Obviously this varies from person to person, but I'm sure it is healthier than having a spare tyre.
Another one here who favours the 'move more - eat less' approach.
You can of course read every book going, become an expert on the glycemic index of foods, your body's insulin response to certain foods, metabolic rates, supplements, exercise etc etc....but most people dont have the time or interest span, i touched the subject briefly when i had mates who entered body building contests....those guys are masters at shedding fat for contests, they come down to scary low bodyfat percentages and look shrink wrapped the week of the competition....how do they do it?....in the simplest terms they restrict calories in the most brutal way obviously....they keep training and keep the protein going in so as to hold onto as much muscle as possible (although some is lost) during the 8-16 weeks typically needed to become contest ready.
Google pictures of POWs liberated by the allies from German camps, its no secret how they ended up that emaciated....forced labour and a lack of food....or 'move more - eat less' in a tasteless analogy i'll admit.
Leanest i've ever been was when i kickboxed regularly....2 x 1.5hr sessions per week, 1 x weights session of my own accord and 1 x 45min squash game each week....ordered lean meats, fish, salads if eating out....never had desert and ate cereal (breakfast), sandwich (lunch) and a pasta or rice evening meal every bloody day....drank a ton of water too....only drank at weekends....didnt touch fizzy drinks, sweets, crisps etc....BORING. AS. HELL.
....but it did the trick, great fitness, proper weight for my height as opposed to the bulky look i have now and visible muscles all over my body.
The 'secret' to any of this (if there is such a thing) is having the willpower to do it, losing weight is difficult enough mentally but then changing your whole attitude to food and disciplining yourself to only eat what you need each day as opposed to what you want can be hideous when all around you are stuffing their faces with whatever they desire.
Anyway i always found it easiest when i committed to a sport, kickboxing worked for me but i know others who have done the same with Rugby...the commitment to a team or trying not to get a pasting at classes is often the best motivation....pounding the bike by yourself or working at the gym on your own is hard to keep up for most people.
I haven't really found the need to be brutal with cutting my food. I still have pizza occasionally, or a Chinese. For me it was cutting how much cereal I eat for breakfast (the portion size is much smaller than most people eat), no snacks between meals, and portion control for lunch and dinner.
I still eat what I enjoy, just in proper proportion.
Boardinbob - cycling burns around 1000kcal/hr
Gluptons estimate, not mine
Yeh I know.
Aye strava and endomondo reckons 1k cals for one hour cycling . 1 hour melting it on my commute burns 500 according to hrm - still a guess but closer than going by speed an incline alone as we dont all burn the same/need to work as hard to travel at the same speed and distance.
I'm the same on mine - between 5-600 on a 1ish hour commute using a garmin. 558 this morning for 19.4miles. I know not 100% accurate but I would say 1000 is well over estimated.
I'll add my congrats to Glupton. It took a lot of work and willpower for that. My partner's on similar meds and is constantly wanting chocolate to get rid of mouthfeel.
Keep going!
I'm trying to lose a few pounds, so have joined the Strava May 'number of miles' target. I'll never get a KOM as I'm not a speed demon but it is a way to keep me motivated to get out on a bike.
I've noticed that most of the people who don't believe in "eat less, move more" are fat bastards.
Basic premise -"That may work in practice, but it doesn't fit my theory, therefore it cannot be true, bring me another doughnut."
😆 😀 😆
I seem to be still losing weight even if I eat loads of rubbish. Like today 4 pints of Stella, 3 hot cross buns, 2 packets of crisps, cheese on toast. If I've had a bad/naughty day I just cut back on everything else.
I'm active at work as well as all the riding, so with me I think it's just quantity of food that needs to be kept in check.
I don't live on that of course, but it just goes to show it's pretty simple all this weight loss stuff.
After years of extensive study, I have found irrefutable evidence that...
...if I eat lots of crap food and don't get much exercise, I put weight on.
You'll never believe this - if I eat smaller amounts of decent food and get a moderate amount of exercise - wait for it........ yup, I lose weight!
Rocket science it is not!
Well done glupton
Good effort 🙂 it really is that simple to lose weight which is why I can't stand people whining about being fat and how hard it is to lose it! I'm almost where I want to be with fat loss but the last bits are much harder, or at least they are for me. On a keto diet which is helping, just need to get off my arse and put in some more roadie miles!
Great effort glupton1976! Well done!
Jeez Solo, believe it or not it is possible for people to lose weight by burning more calories than they take in. All the OP stated was that was how he achieved it. You are obviously very sensitive on the matter for whatever reasons, and took it personally, but there's no need to be such a tool about it.
Great work OP, I have lost a total of 4 stone over a few years with your same miracle weight-loss regime.
I was 13 stone 4 on 14th Feb, 7 weeks later I was 11 stone 6, 2 sessions of chemo and 34 sessions of radiotherapy did it for me 😕
[url= http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/psoriatic-arthritis/Pages/Introduction.aspx ]Not all over weight people are in the fortunate position to be able to exercise. My wife has this condition and other issues which can prevent her from doing too much.[/url]
Well done Glupton.
I managed to get below 14st for the first time in 33yrs last year. Then my mum and dad took ill and my exercise and eating regime went out the window. I also work 12hr shifts inc nights which I struggle to get through without eating junk!!
33yrs ago I contracted salmonella and went from 12st to 9st in the matter of 2wks, did/could not eat for 6wks.
Well done OP. I actually dropped 7lbs by starting training properly again. No change in diet. I've lost more than 7lbs in fat but I've put on muscle so it's disguised somewhat.
