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[Closed] 4 x 4 f*+ckwits

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Wish I had 4x4 but even so everyone was driving at 20mph anyway and on your bumper typiically.

I never used 1st gear today-pulled away in 2nd and watched people wheel spinning.


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 12:22 am
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as a country bumpkin, 4x4 are pretty essential. Further more, having a decent one with a decent engine such as the defender we have atm is worthwhile... why?

1) used as a supply vehicle for the regular moor fires
2) used in a logging business
3) just about the only type of vehicle capable of launching a boat at the local 'free' slipway
4) diff lock and good driving skills get it out of snow, to drag/ winch you environmental wallies out of snow drifts, ditches, etc so that you can get to your internet-connecting device (presumably a blackberry)
5) it's made of scaffolding and sheet steel. Very little hydroforming operations, or niche coatings, or exotic materials here! So, manufacture is not half as environmentally harmful as your modern estates, hatchbacks, etc. It may produce more CO2/NOX/SO2 from combustion BUT simple manufacture means that less cyanates, cyanides, bromides/ bromates, lead compounds, Al- compounds and many more are released.

How's that?


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 11:32 am
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as a country bumpkin, 4x4 are pretty essential. Further more, having a decent one with a decent engine such as the defender we have atm is worthwhile... why?

5) it's made of scaffolding and sheet steel. Very little hydroforming operations, or niche coatings, or exotic materials here! So, manufacture is not half as environmentally harmful as your modern estates, hatchbacks, etc. It may produce more CO2/NOX/SO2 from combustion BUT simple manufacture means that less cyanates, cyanides, bromides/ bromates, lead compounds, Al- compounds and many more are released.

.....and it'll still be around in 50 years time, whereas most ecomental 'disposable' cars need replacing every 7-9years.


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 11:52 am
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amen brother. The biggest change we can make is to shed our consumer society. Oh, and get some cheap, renewable energy sources to tempt china/india/africa/USA/brazil away from oil and coal. Nuclear fission?


 
Posted : 10/01/2010 12:05 pm
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