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Drove into work today bit tricky but no major dramas on narrow snow covered lanes. That is untill the cocks with 4x4's come the other way. Sat in the middle of the road doing 40mph thinking they are invincible. That would be you in the Navarra, that would be you in the Discovery that would be you in the Freelander you f*ckin co*kjockeys. Sadly all but one were women and seemed to be be clueless as to what to do or even slow down. Anyway made it and am now bored at work, hence the post.
i like all the wrong side of the road stuff that they do when the rest of us just wait in line.
didnt know it was allowed when it snows.
Woman broke down in our road this morning so the guy coming down towards her decided the best course of action was to swear at her and ask why she hadn't pulled over before she broke down 🙄 There was lots of swearing back and forth and the bloke did sod all to actually help. Think there'll be more of this before it warms up.
Can we please rename this place Whiningabout4x4sinthesnowtrackworld instead?
Sounds like it's lucky that you're a good enough driver to have got out of their way.
i've had the opposite, driving over the snake pass before christmas i was constantly held up by timid drivers in 4x4s driving too slowly.
in a 2wd car they need to understand that momentum is my friend and when they stop on an uphill corner or mince downhill i'm going to get stuck or smash into the back of them
but i've had far more trouble with people in normal cars so not going to tar them all with the same brush
basically eberybody on the road is shit except me
well then you'll be happy to know that my (proper) 4x4 is still parked where it was 5 days ago, because despite the fact it can cope with sh1te weather I don't deem any of my journey's worth the risk.
Bike works fine 😉
Dont get me started on the ****ing retards that think its acceptable to sit on your bumper on a white road. ****ing imbeciles - they dont even take the hint when you stop to let them passed - they just ****ing sit there with a dumb look on their fat ****ing faces.
Bad commute this morning G?
they dont even take the hint when you stop to let them passed
But I thought you...
When there's someone tailgating me in the snow, I pull in at the next junction, do a quick U turn and pull out behind them. Saves all the stress and aggro of having them behind you, and you get to do a quick handbrake turn 😆
Pigface, did your wife give you a knock back last night then, or is it just jealousy that you do not own a 4x4?
Can we please rename this place Whiningabout4x4sinthesnowtrackworld instead?
No, but you'll have my full support if you want to rename it "whining abouteverybastardthingtrackworld" or even "itsallgordonbrownsfaultalwaystrackworld".
"itsallgordonbrownsfaultalwaystrackworld".
WRONG
thatcher's fault innit
You not fussy then?
My wife's so ugly I can only take her out once a year, Halloween.
The peace of mind that I experience whilst travelling around safely in my 4x4 allows me the space to reflect on the joys of owning what some are clearly envious of, of slowly killing polar bears, of watching less successful people struggle and of driving 1 metre from the back of nervous looking people who can't wait to get home and fill the internets with tales of evil Landrovers.
Marvelous.
4x4 drivers = ****wits shocker !!
You should see it around here - unbelievable driving!
Out at 6.0am and some people are driving without their lights on, others tailgating ridiculously close!!
Guy drove around the corner of a road so fast he span off and did a 360 degree power slide and almost rolled the car.
I'm staying in and going out on my bike offroad away from the idiots 🙂
instead of all this:
4x4 drivers = ****wits shocker !!
non 4x4 drivers = ****wits shocker !!
BMW drivers = ****wits shocker !!
audi drivers = ****wits shocker !!
RWD drivers = ****wits shocker !!
young drivers = ****wits shocker !!
old drivers = ****wits shocker !!
red car drivers = ****wits shocker !!
blue car drivers = ****wits shocker !!
can we agree to just settle on:
*some* people = ****wits
others, not so much...
Whinging girls.
or mince downhill i'm going to get stuck or smash into the back of them
4x4 means more braking and cornering grip, does it?
I love my 4x4. I drive it excellently.
me not them molgrips
Hey good luck to them, at least for 1 week a year they can feel smug. Probably makes up for 51 weeks of feeling awkward & self-concious.
I love the 4x4 haters, here are a few good reasons why i drive a navara
1. i can go biking get the bike dirty as **** and chuck it straight in the back without worrying about getting car dirty
2. in the summer i go camping alot and get to leave most of gear in car all summer to just get in and go, not constantly packing and unpacking.
3. when the weather is shite like now I get to take the back lanes home and leave the main routes clear for all the 2wheel drivers(and still beat them there)
4 If your really knew what you were talking about you would realise my diesel navara is far more fuel efficient than most 2ltr rep mobiles so it actually does some good too.
How much does it weigh?
4 If your really knew what you were talking about you would realise my diesel navara is far more fuel efficient than most 2ltr rep mobiles so it actually does some good too.
i'd like to see THOSE figures 😯
I get about 38 to the gallon all cycles, wife drives a 2 ltr primera on similar journeys that returns no where near as good consumption, on a run I get 45+
I drive a all wheel drive car. Love the way it pulls into and around roundabouts and it offers great traction when you use the throttle and steering calmly. Blame the driver, not the car.
your wife must have a right foot the size of a navy destroyer then 🙂
Most 2ltr rep mobiles are diesels now and get 45 plus per gallon
soo...if the rep mobiles are only returning similar figures and mine is far more practical who's the donut here?
You must have a specially special noncerama
Economy ~ manufacturers figures
Urban 23.9 mpg
Extra Urban 32.8 mpg
Combined 28.8 mpg
The Primera had rubbish fuel economy even when it was new, so I don't really think that its hard to better it.
45 average, you get 38
Me to mcboo. Seems some people think that 4X4 drive gives you 4X4 stopping. You still have to drive well, hit the brakes in a 4X4 and your suddenly in control of a two ton sledge.
I learnt alot about driving 4X4s in the Army, probably learnt a bit more when the instructors weren't watching 😛 and I learnt some great tips when I did a basic course so I could drive my company 4X4 in a certain companies sites
best tip on driving a 4x4 if the conditions are really bad, let the car do the work, engine braking is very underrated in bad conditions
i also did 4x4 course - dont own a 4x4 but alot of what you learn RE traction and slowing down off road applies even in your 2WD FWD car ...
You still have to drive well, hit the brakes in a 4X4 and your suddenly [u]NOT[/u] in control of a two ton sledge.
best tip on driving a 4x4 if the conditions are really bad, let the car do the work, engine braking is very underrated in bad conditions
Agree. Stay away from the brakes as much as possible- even a short stab would unsettle the car.
In general a smoother driver makes for better mpg anyway and my sis-in-law said a few weekends ago after she glanced at the speedo as she thought we were doing 50/felt slow and not the indicated 80 on the clock. That, I felt was a huge compliment 😀
Been teaching my little girl how to drive the Landrover on an old dissused airfield (with permision) we can push it to the limit safely. I'm hoping she will learn what you can and can't do in a 4X4, and not be either over cautious or take risks.
Seen some people who I must assume are lucky idiots. Tanking up to roundabouts on snow and ice assuming they won't have to stop seems a common one.
I'm guessing it was an observation related to perceived passage of time
4x4 problems? Round here, theyre all pulling people out of ditches, drifts, etc. OK, the chelsea tractor lot are a pain, but don't give the Defender crew a bad rap.
saw something about a big diesel engine being more fuel efficient than a 2L petrol. That may be correct if you have decent fuel injector. For example, audi diesel engines are leagues more fuel efficient than a toyota prius, because they put some decent dielectric ceramics in. I think this is a great bit of info, great for shooting down the Prius lobby!
My 4x4 Cherokee gets about 15mpg 😳 I just wished I had some snow to see what its capable of. My previous 4x4 Ford Escape was awesome in the snow the previous two years and that just kicked in the back wheels when needed. As has been said a million times that had decent all season tires!
That is untill the cocks with 4x4's come the other way. Sat in the middle of the road doing 40mph thinking they are invincible.
Round here it doesn't need to be snowing or be a 4x4 for any arrogant knob end in any type of vehicle to do that. They seem to think they own the road and you should automatically move over for them. I've taken to driving at them letting their reflexes take their vehicle where good manners and consideration should have in the first place. Wouldn't try it in snow though.
Teachers in 4x4s - they're the worst. 😉
4x4 means more braking and cornering grip, does it?
Actually in 4x4 off-roaders with decent M&S tyres, yup, I'd venture to say that in my experience it does. Certainly better than my 2wd normal car with normal tyres, better in accel, cornering and decel. Of course on pure ice, no it's as much of a nightmare (though has the lovely tendency to maintain momentum which can have positive and negative effects - keeps it more stable when other cars tend to squirm and spin but also means understeer in bends rarely can be corrected). You just have to know your car, have a car kitted out properly (tyres) and have experience using it PROPERLY. 4x4s have much better snow clearance, don't get stuck in drifts as easily, can pass in tricky situations where cars must stay on more level ground, can pull other cars out of hedges/ditches etc where other cars sit and spin (kinda proves the point about traction). Why do you think they use landcruisers offroad in iceland, rather than Passat estates?
4x4 normal cars - much better than 2wd, the extra cornering and traction for accel is very noticable, but ultimately it's on road tyres so it stops just as badly as my 2wd.
2wd FWD TD estate - plods along, can't be overly adventurous, gets stuck where the 4x4s wouldn't, can't pass in drifts if required, can't brake any better than the others, but at least it's cheap if it gets crumpled.
More than 30mpg out of a navara, never in a month of Sundays unless you took an engine out of a micra and put it in your navara.
Managed to get 28mpg once, but you have to drive like a girl to get that. Normally average 22-25mpg.
The Navara is nearly a 3 ton vehicle with a 2.5 litre turbo diesel engine |