So Rooney is on that silly salary, whilst the Staffordshire NHS trust is running close to 'bankruptcy' or similar, although I don't know how it can do that when it's supposed to be a service.
What is this country doing to itself 🙄
Cos people pay to watch it, simples. (not me though, bloody hate the game)
I imagine tax forms a fair portion of that salary, which helps pay for the NHS?
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Rooneys salary can be paid from money the club make, he's not paid by the government who fund the hospital so I fail to see your comparison or issue?
I agree with the sentiment, but Rooney,s not paid with taxpayers money, we need sky to show live NHS...
International market, can't blame the country. This planet is going to the dogs
But he DOES love jesus, apparently. Surely mitigating?
ZOMG!!!!!!!!!
It would take me over 20yrs work at my current wage to reach his weekly pay, might go and kick a ball round the garden and see if i get talent spotted….riches and wealth, here i come!
Rooneys salary can be paid from money the club make, he's not paid by the government who fund the hospital so I fail to see your comparison or issue?
Sorry should have been more clearer with my point, I was just watching the news at lunchtime, when the two stories followed each other.
One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially, followed by that £300K/Week Rooney story.
That's all
Market forces in play, he brings in punters.
Simples.
bet you'd be surprised how little of that 300k he gives in tax.
I don't particularly like football - but the phrase "wendy ball" makes my tummy hurt
Why get upset by it, Will he not be paying about £8 million in tax? Or does anybody know the figure.
Enough to pay for lots of nurses wages. I'm sure movie stars and others get paid more than he does.
One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially,
"The NHS" isn't a homogenous thing. It's a group of organisations. Some of them get given money by govt, others get paid by those ones to fix people.
Hospitals are commisioned to do work by CCGs (groups of GPs).
The GPs might have all the money but if they're paying £xx per attendance and people don't want to go to Mid Staffs (would you?!) then they're going to struggle to pay their bills with lower activity.
Then there's the staff who don't want to work there ("[i]you know that hospital that everyone thinks is awful, I used to work there, can I have a job at your 'good' hospital please?[/i]") 😉 So they have to pay higher rates to get agency staff in to cover. So their costs go up further.
You could give the GPs an extra £Rooney every month and it wouldn't make any difference to Mid Staffs.
Possibly. But maybe not.
It's the free market that we all love when it suits us to and revile when we don't.
Interesting, replace Rooney by a banker and I bet this thread would have gone differently.
Mental stratergy. They should be concentrating on youth or new blood.
No amount of money would attract me to the life of a football star.
One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially, followed by that £300K/Week Rooney story.
It simply shows the value of one over another. The NHS being of massive value to the general public is going to the dogs due to politicians placing cost over value, along with a large dose of ideology, while whoever is paying spud head boy to kick a ball about is prepared to pay that cost because of the value it brings to the club in terms of punters, TV money advertising and merchandising.
Its what's completely wrong, not only with this country, but the whole planet.
Can be summed up in one word greed. unfortunately we're all guilty.Its what's completely wrong, not only with this country, but the whole planet.
which helps pay for the NHS?
Or for a 17min delay in an Ambulance arriving.
Why are footballer salaries always quoted weekly not annually like you would quote most other professions? And is that the salary in the football season or 52 weeks a year? And does the salary drop if they are injured or dropped to the bench?
The NHS is ****ed no matter how much money you pump into it.
I'm sure I heard somewhere that footballers don't pay tax on the wage they get paid each week.. The club cover it separately or something, which if true means he gets every penny of the 300G!!
I reckon the whole thing will crash and burn in years to come. Too many kids not playing footy these days, sitting in on the play station etc plus dodgy tv streaming and what not so in years to come the audience may dwindle?? Plus it's all got ridiculous and out of hand so we,ll see how much longer it lasts. I wonder if tomorrow's footballers will be as interested if gravy train is gone. Messers Rooney and co will be the ones who hit the jackpot.
God I remember about 10 years ago Peter Shillton came to do our 8 aside league awards!! He was skint apparently but a legend in his day, quite a few others like him from that era eking out the few quid they have left I reckon.
Why get upset by it,
Its a lot of money that of say spent on the NHS or starving people could do more good.
Will he not be paying about £8 million in tax? Or does anybody know the figure.
So its a supportive statement but you admit you have no idea what the figure is 🙄
Enough to pay for lots of nurses wages.
What the 300 k or the amount of tax he pays- which pays most
I'm sure movie stars and others get paid more than he does.
this sort of statement should be given a law like Goodwin - yes there are other excesses but we are commenting on this one
We all understand market forces and most will find this obscene
Interesting, replace Rooney by a banker and I bet this thread would have gone differently.
Replace the banker with a Gregg's sausage roll, and it would have been carnage.
Poor lad might take home as little as £160,000/week if he pays all his tax 🙁
I reckon the whole thing will crash and burn in years to come. Too many kids not playing footy these days, sitting in on the play station etc plus dodgy tv streaming and what not so in years to come the audience may dwindle??
Actually sport is one of the last big areas of interest for advertisers, as it has a high immediate value when shown live, but this value decays quickly afterwards, making e.g. illegal copies etc. much lower worth than say, pirate movies accessed via torrent downloads. Super Bowl half time anyone?
It's not right or wrong, it just is, complaining about it is pointless. Be glad that it's a British club that has players that have this kind of draw, so at least some cash ends up in NHS coffers via our hyper efficient tax system.
I have no interest in football whatsoever. And I know little about the intricacies of professional life as a footballer. But I take it this is his contract with Manchester United - his flat wage?
In which case he will also receive phenomenal amounts of money from sponsorship deals, additional to this?
People making obscene amounts of money doesn't bother me too much generally. And I think in sport, it does usually come from various sources of sponsorship. But to pay a wage of 1.2 million each month ... it's all relative I suppose, but surely you reach a point where it becomes meaningless? You're making more money than you can possibly spend, unless you want to be a **** about it, and buy a few 50k fish, even though you have no interest in fish.
I mean, say he had an offer from Barcelona, for 400k a week! I'm sure there are people out there that shallow, that would take it just because it's more money. But in the grand scheme of things, surely you'd go wherever you felt happiest, because the difference between 200k a week and 400k a week is negligible in real terms of quality of life, even if it is double the wage?
That's why I'd disagree with it. Because it [i]is[/i] a pointless waste of money which could be put to better use.
That said, as mentioned previously, there's an international aspect to this, and it probably brings a lot of money into the UK economy regardless. (although there's probably a moral debate in there somewhere about making the rest of the world poorer!)
Some have earned more than Rooney in Manchester 🙂
But if he moved abroad he wouldn't be contributing anything to Uk would he not ?
I have no idea if this is correct like my last post which included a ? Mark as I was unsure.
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Ohhmy****inggod! I had no idea footballers were paid to play football!
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Seriously, so what, lots of players get paid lots of money. Lots of players get peanuts and have to work out a new career once they've got to about 40.
He's a top player at a top club getting top wages - just how it works in all walks of life. I could complain about how much a senior consultant in an NHS hospital earns, with private patients and other income such as speaking at medical conferences brings them compared to my earnings but hey, that's how it works.
Rightly or wrongly, people are clearly prepared to pay large amounts of their disposable income to a football club but not to the people who look after their health. It's tells you what you need to know about our society.
iirc Rooney doesn't pay sod all tax, he set up a Caymans island corporation to channel his money through.
If that payslip for Tevez is real (which I strongly doubt) then good on him for paying proper tax and not using the obscene loopholes that so many high earners do.
It would be interesting to see what the average person pays into the NHS every year compared to the average spend on supporting a football club.
When I was a season ticket holder at Leeds, I paid around £600 a year for the ticket + the odd pie and pint in the ground.
How much do I pay in taxation towards the NHS per annum?
It depends how much of that weekly wage is image rights. I seem to recall that if he's using a PLC in terms of the owning the image rights then he'd pay a lot less tax on that 300k than he probably should.
My issue with this is that footballer payrises are being funded from the extortionate ticket prices currently charged by most premier league sides.
Wayne Roonet would be playing football for 300quid a week were it not for the eejits paying sky sports subs.
It is not really relevant to bring up the nhs in a comparison. That amount of money for playing a game is just sick. Full stop.
The people I am surprised by is the ordinary paying fan. This kind of thing is a living insult to people who fork out a large percentage of their disposable income to watch these teams play. I don't understand (but no doubt someone will tell me) how anyone can support a team that pays their players that much whilst demanding several hundred pounds a year to deign to allow them to sit on a hard plastic seat to watch them play. It is just willingly having the piss taken, being a galactic-class mug. In my opinion, obviously. 🙂
Watching football seems pretty cheap compared to what I pay for cycling.
How can he set up a Cayman Island company. It's not like we don't know where he is every week?
Because tax laws are written to allow the rich to drive big ****ing trucks of money through the loopholes.
While 300k a week would be reallllly nice 😀
The NHS is just piss poorly managed full stop.
There is masive wastage we resently had a bit of kit from a NHS supply company there was a slight repairable defect on it there answer was just to chuck it out. The kit in question was worth £5K and it was heading for a skip 🙄
Always having worked for private companies myself and others just could not believe it, throwing 5K away FFS.
Or the matress that we had at the house while we thought the MIL would make it out of hospital but sadly didn't all we did was to take the cover of it and once again it was classed as "used" and would be scrapped.
And don't get me started on the IT **** ups over the years good grief.
I would never want the NHS to go private EVER! but if they ran it AS EFFICIENTLY as a private company maybe there would be more funds for the sick and needy IMO
Gate receipts pay for the kit boy
Telly money is the source of the real money. If you don't like it STOP PAYING FOR SKY/BT it's perfectly frickin simple.
edit:Oh and half these a-holes that do pay forit if you said to them pay it in tax instead to improve the NHS they'd go chuffin ballistic. A-holes.
double edit: I love footy by the way
No Sky here. Can take or leave soccer if I'm honest. Certainly more fun to play than watch.
