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its funny how they cant get on the housing ladder but the polish lad and lass out our place have managed it and they came here with sweet FA

But we'll soon put a stop to that won't we eh?


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:47 pm
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But we'll soon put a stop to that won't we eh?

Sadly this is possible


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:49 pm
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Is it truly democratic that with such a close vote, millions of young people and their views have been ignored

Yes its true democracy

Oh, and the current government has proved time and again that it has no problem breaking its promises to the public.

Name me one government that hasnt done this.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:49 pm
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Yes its true democracy

True democracy allows you to undo what has already be done via the means of new elections: This doesn't haven't that option.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:51 pm
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Phil - you've lost me. But for the record, my university education has paid off ok. And I'm doing ok housing wise too. We do need some more immigrants though as we struggle to fill jobs round here. Employed some very good Greeks recently.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:52 pm
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Name me one government that hasnt done this.

Why? There's only one in power at the moment.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:56 pm
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[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/25/eu-referendum-voting-rights-not-extended-all-uk-citizens-abroad ]Those most affected by the vote couldn't vote.[/url]

Should I complain to the European court of human rights? Prisoners didn't win when they tried but in this case it's seems unfair to penalise those who took advantage of freedom of movement their own government made available by joining the EU.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 5:58 pm
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Yeah - I've seen them on the TV speaking about how they regret voting to Leave

I'm not doubting that, but for whatever reason they have and we're all going to have to live with it. The whole Cornwall thing is a prime example. Wave goodbye to £600,000,000 in grants over the next 10 years from the EU because they don't like the government, then ask the government for £600,000,000. Mind****ingly short sighted. But they did it.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:07 pm
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The whole Cornwall thing is a prime example. Wave goodbye to £600,000,000 in grants over the next 10 years from the EU because they don't like the government, then ask the government for £600,000,000. Mind****ingly short sighted. But they did it.

They will reap what they sowed and good luck to them 😉


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:11 pm
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Have spoken to three people today who now regret voting out. One because they thought £350 million was going to be spent on the NHS, another because they are upset that Mr Cameron has resigned and the third has just changed his mind!

How many more people are just beginning to realise that voting out may not have been such a good idea?


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:14 pm
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How many more people are just beginning to realise that voting out may not have been such a good idea?

Over time... millions.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:18 pm
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Over time... millions.

Well it will give them something to contemplate whilst they queue at the local food bank, they can bask in the warm glow knowing they voted for their new lifestyle.......


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:19 pm
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I'm not doubting that, but for whatever reason they have and we're all going to have to live with it. The whole Cornwall thing is a prime example. Wave goodbye to £600,000,000 in grants over the next 10 years from the EU because they don't like the government, then ask the government for £600,000,000. Mind****ingly short sighted. But they did it.

So if they'd all voted to unleash a nuclear strike on Russia we'd just get on with pushing the button? Straw man I know, but at some point you have to say that if the decision is just plain wrong, for whatever reason, then perhaps you have to fight it. This is a one-off & if it means not accepting 'democracy', in the form of a referendum in which an awful lot of people admitted to not really understanding the issues, then so be it.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:21 pm
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This is really the one of the worst aspects of Generation Snowflake laid bare.

A generation of pampered, self-absorbed kidults who are certain that somehow their vote must be worth more than one of someone who has a different opinion.

Do give me a shout when the petition gets to 17,410,742 17,410,743. Until then it is just the unedifying spectacle of would-be grown ups threatening to "scweem and scweem and scweem until I'm sick".


Very well put.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:22 pm
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Very well put.

Pretty sure most people objecting aren't from generation snowflake, whatever that is - they just object to being screwed over by morons.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:25 pm
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object to being screwed over by morons.

In the words of my old drill sergeant; "un-f***ing-lucky"


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:28 pm
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Most of the politicians [s]know[/s] probably think leaving is the wrong thing to do. If anyone can wriggle out of it it's politicians.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:29 pm
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And I am sure we can put some equally nasty generalisations about your generation, so slurring a whole generation is not helpful.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:31 pm
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Sorry, was someone kidding when they said this petition was started by a STW'er?


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:31 pm
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In the words of my old drill sergeant; "un-f***ing-lucky"

No where near as unlucky as most of those who voted Out and will suffer way more than I will!


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:31 pm
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Most of the politicians know probably think leaving is the wrong thing to do

Boris does. IIRC he wasn't particularly eurosceptic until he saw an opening for a shot at the title.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:33 pm
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So, obviously a lot of the signatures will be from the remain camp, but just how many signatures do you think it would take to actually make a difference?

We live in a friggin democracy. A 2nd referendum would make a mockery of that. I am totally shocked and I think DC should come out and give it short shrift.

Article 50 needs to be signed Monday and let's get the ball rolling. This type of behavior could lead to civil unrest and that will certainly wreck the economy!

My view of a sore vote remainer.

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Posted : 25/06/2016 6:34 pm
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Pretty sure most people objecting aren't from generation snowflake, whatever that is

I'm sorry, but could you explain how it is that you are pretty sure that most of the people aren't something that you don't know the definition of ?


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:34 pm
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Boris looked like a beaten man yesterday.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:35 pm
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Right, I guess it wasn't really you then, flanagaj.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:35 pm
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Boris does. IIRC he wasn't particularly eurosceptic until he saw an opening for a shot at the title.

That's what I reckon. Will Boris really want to preside over 3 years of (at best) uncertainty and instability or (at worst) disaster to then lose spectacularly in 2020 (if he can't find £350million a week for the NHS and all the other things people think he was promising) and drift off into the shadows? I doubt it.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:36 pm
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That's what I reckon. Will Boris really want to preside over 3 years of (at best) uncertainty and instability or (at worst) disaster to then lose spectacularly in 2020 and drift off into the shadows? I doubt it.

Which is why CMD has just served him a large shit sandwich.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:38 pm
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Why don't we do a 'best of 3'?
3 referendums on the same subject, no-one could complain then could they?


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:39 pm
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Yes, but with a few months to try and find a way to wriggle out of it???


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:39 pm
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Part of me wants this to go and reveal how rotten all of them are.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:41 pm
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To be fair, when you sign your life away you have to answer these:

"1. Are you aware that if you go ahead to the last screen and press the ‘Yes’ button, you will be given a lethal dose of medications and die?
2. Are you certain you understand that if you proceed and press the ‘Yes’ button on the next screen that you will die?
3. In 15 seconds you will be given a lethal injection… press ‘Yes’ to proceed."

That's 3/3, not even best of!


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:44 pm
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It won't be a huge surprise though


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:44 pm
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It's funny how they can't get on the housing ladder but the Polish lad and lass at our place have managed it and they came here with sweet FA.
It's called "work" you lazy, ****less whiners! You won't have heard of it, it wasn't in the university education you're still paying for that you thought would entitle you to a job.

Most of your posts and complete and utter rubbish, but this one takes the biscuit.

70% of graduates voted FOR Remain, 85% of those in education voted FOR Remain. Not being able to get on the housing ladder has far less to do with immigration than it does with the fact that graduate jobs pay ~£28k and the average house price in the UK is close to 8 times that number. House prices were driven up far more by Buy2Let mortgages than by immigration, as these two groups are (on a percentage basis) looking at different sectors of the market.

P.S. I took the liberty of correcting some of your spelling and grammar - this is despite the fact that I've worked ~70 hours this last week culminating with a 16 hour day yesterday.

Best regards, a lazy, self entitled, fee paying, remain voting, liberal minded GRADUATE from "Generation Snowflake"


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:44 pm
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No where near as unlucky as most of those who voted Out and will suffer way more than I will!

Nobody knows that. If we do leave and prosper, I look forward to all of you putting your hands up and admitting that you were just guessing, as everyone is.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:45 pm
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Part of me wants this to go and reveal how rotten all of them are.

Good read: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/25/boris-johnson-michael-gove-eu-liars


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:45 pm
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3 referendums on the same subject, no-one could complain then could they?

WANNA BET ROFL

maybe if we drew straws


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:45 pm
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CMD has just served him a large shit sandwich.

He's served us all one, really.

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Posted : 25/06/2016 6:46 pm
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Nobody knows that. If we do leave and prosper, I look forward to all of you putting your hands up and admitting that you were just guessing.

Be more than happy to, but so far it's not looking good; only 2 $trillion wiped off stock markets so far....


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:46 pm
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I've worked ~70 hours this last week culminating with a 16 hour day yesterday.

The blame culture is strong in this one.

However the education must be money well spent, it at least allows you to get all uppetty

signed your sincerely

My mortgage is paid for at 45

So what


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:50 pm
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He's served us all one, really.

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He won't be remembered for skull****ing a dead pig though. Some feat to get that off his epitaph.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:51 pm
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philxx - You seem very angry for somebody whose side just won.

Is something bothering you? You can talk to us.


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:52 pm
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I may have missed something. I've not read every post.
But the consensus is that we can't / shouldn't have another referendum because some didn't get the vote they wanted.
Do those same conditions apply for the SNP in Scotland? It didn't happen for them last year, yet they want another in / out Scottish referendum.
Seems as if its good for one and not the other!


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:54 pm
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philxx - You seem very angry for somebody whose side just won.

Is something bothering you? You can talk to us.

I didn't vote, I have no dog in that race.

I do feel bad for Daffy though, maybe he could actually cross the lazy off his signature tagline


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:54 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36626004 ]Watch this and tell me if you are entirely happy about the democratic vote to leave[/url] , if you still agree then you are a ................. (insert suitable expletive here)


 
Posted : 25/06/2016 6:56 pm
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Mrwhyte, you are a classic example, or at least that's what comes across, (hopefully I am wrong as I don't know you), of what is wrong with our country.
You didn't get what you wanted so you want to play another game.
We live in a country where people want their own little desires satisfied at what ever the cost to any one else, be it, having a cheeky trail because "I know better and RoW laes are silly", deciding that the speed limit is silly because one is a superior driver or just not getting your way. I teach 7 year olds who stick their bottom lip out when I say that they can't use the felt pens. Same thing.
Like it or not, and I still can't decide, the country did what it did and that's fair.
I have to assume that you and others like you would support a re-vote if we voted to stay. After all its was close so it must be wrong.
I doubt that you would want that type of fair though.
I defy anyone to prove that we are economically screwed. Go on do it!
You can't. You can't even get close any more than we can prove that we are not. In 25 years time, yes.

Some one above reckoned that the margin was not enough for a decent majority. Well this is one election where everything went as it should. A simple yes or no and one side won. That's how elections should be not buggering about being tactical for a bunch of rogues.


 
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