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Why on earth has Russell Crowe had to apologise to people that harm their children? OK, yeah, apart from the fact he works in Hollywoood and it's practised widely in the US.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13761834 ]BBC News Story[/url]
And if practising Jews and Muslims themselves don't even agree on genital mutilation how on earth did he 'offend the religion'?
Contrary to the scriptures we don't marry 9 year olds in the civilised world any more, we don't stone to death homosexuals any more, why do we allow people to ritualisticly deface their children?
it seems that a lot of personal opinion is being misconstrued as racism/antisemitism/mysogyny etc etc these days and people now, rightly or wrongly, feel the incessant need to self-censor what they say in order to avoid upsetting the minority
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Never mind all that...what's his dog called?
Sambo ?
Darkie?
Sheila
he decided to insult as many groups as possible so he called it Abo Hamza
Maddie
Female circumcision was outlawed years ago, so why not the same ruling for boys???
I suspect that most of the ire directed at Crowe has arisen not because of the religious aspect of this, but because the majority of American males are circumcised. [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Non-religious_circumcision ]It is standard procedure for them to lop bits off their boys, irrespective of whether it is medically advisable to do so.[/url] So when Crowe says "That's a bit messed up" 85% of US blokes think "Russell Crowe just said I'm barbaric and stupid!" and they kick off as a result. Jewish and Muslim tradition is just a handy stick to beat him with.
Apparently it is a sign for the big ape sky god(s) that you are one of the 'chosen few' (AFAIK this is Jewish people and muslims - are there any more religions that chop bits off like that for a laff?).
Though s/he must be a right perv to demand to see your bits before you enter paradise. "Sorry, you've been a fantastic bloke but your tackles still intact. You're going downstairs!"
I would imagine trying to make a detailed comment about circumcision on twitter must be quite tricky, and you run the risk of your point being cut short.......what with only 140 characters to use.
I personally think circumcision should only be done for medical reasons, not because its part of your religion or creed.
FWIW its a bit of a non story, although he did issue a grovelling apology the next day IIRC.
It did make me laugh when someone said circumcision was more hygenic, to which Crowe replied, so you'll be sewing up your @rsehole then? Top retort.
TuckerUK - MemberWhy on earth has Russell Crowe had to apologise to people that harm their children?
I presume he'd punched them?
Culturally tolerated body mutilation but hey lets tolerate it and imagine what zealous atheists would do to a baby's face with a gay swan.
A gay swan with a muslamic ray gun?
I feel strangely attracted to those smooth willies on pron sites though. ๐
we don't stone to death homosexuals any more, why do we allow people to ritualisticly deface their children?
It's a bit rude to guys who have had to be circumcised, for whatever reason, to claim that they have been "defaced".
I agree that it is comparable to stoning homosexuals to death though.......you're spot on there mate.
circumcision can reduce the risk of contracting hiv
other than that its a bit pointless really
I feel strangely attracted to those smooth willies on pron sites though.
We have much to discuss!
They just look so shiny!!
I feel strangely attracted to those smooth willies on pron sites though
on reflection dd, is that something that you really wanted to share
kimbers - Membercircumcision can reduce the risk of contracting hiv
How?
other than that its a bit pointless really
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apart from the pun, in contrast to female circumcision it actually has positive effects in terms of sexual pleasure. The exposed glans becomes less sensitive and allows the circumcised guy to last longer
The exposed glans becomes less sensitive and allows the circumcised guy to last longer
Thinking of Anne Widdecombe can have the same effect without the need for such drastic action.
bigyinn - Memberkimbers - Member
circumcision can reduce the risk of contracting hiv
How?
Is it due to potential sexual partners falling over laughing at the sight of a leather helmet?
I would say that circumcision would increase the likelihood of a skinned/chafed helmet therefore increasing the risk of hiv.
As for the increased sexual pleasure thing - why on earth would you want to desensitise your glans? Pelvic floor exercises would be a much better way of increasing staying power without mutilation.
you run the risk of your point being cut short...
s****s
[url= http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21114567 ]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21114567[/url]
its a pretty well established fact the why is not so sure, as i understood it antigen presenting cells only come to the surface of your skin on the undeside of the foreskin and HIV works by attacking immune system cells like apcs
It's a bit rude to guys who have had to be circumcised, for whatever reason, to claim that they have been "defaced".
I see your point, but I don't agree. Just as I don't think it would be rude to genuine amputees to described children that have limbs removed for some sacrifice as 'defaced'.
apart from the pun, in contrast to female circumcision it actually has positive effects in terms of sexual pleasure. The exposed glans becomes less sensitive and allows the circumcised guy to last longer
I can last as long as I need to, so that's that argument down the pan.
I wish you had linked to a vid of an actual circumcision op SBZ, at least it would be funnier.
BOOM! Take that Hale & Pace!
on reflection dd, is that something that you really wanted to share
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Ah well, too late for the edit now ๐
I can last as long as I need to, so that's that argument down the pan.
You do know that anecdote is not the singular of evidence, don't you?
You do know that anecdote is not the singular of evidence, don't you?
Not sure, you hum it and I'll join in when I can.
de[b]face[/b] their [b]child[/b]ren?
I see what you did there.
I can last as long as I need to, so that's that argument down the pan.
You do know that anecdote is not the singular of evidence, don't you?
You're coming on to me aren't you? Steady tiger! Not that I'm not flattered mind you, but I kinda prefer the ladies myself, nothing personal.
It appears that'd more people care about the misnaming of a dog in a fictional movie account of a wartime event than care about the systematic abuse of children...kind of say lots about the terrible falseness of being PC.
its a pretty well established fact the why is not so sure, as i understood it antigen presenting cells only come to the surface of your skin on the undeside of the foreskin and HIV works by attacking immune system cells like apcs
Using an apparent reduction in risk of HIV as a reason for circumsision is at best weak. That study has had many many criticisms not least because the small reduction in HIV is from female-to-male infection not male-to-female tranmission or male-to-male. Another criticism is that were it to be true then places like th US where male circumcision is common should have much lower HIV rates than uk where it is not. The reverse seems to be the case when you look at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate
Condoms are a much much better way of reducing the risk of HIV infection in ALL group, cricumcision is next to useless.
circumcision can reduce the risk of contracting hiv
Also, if you cut off your lips, it makes it easier to brush your teeth.
There used to be a big black dog that chased us whe we were on road bikes on the back lane near to Stoodley Pike above Todmorden. It had 3 legs and was called Tripod. We used to p!ss ourselves when the owner shouted it back.
It appears that'd more people care about the misnaming of a dog in a fictional movie account of a wartime event than care about the systematic abuse of children
That's a bit unfair, I have very strong feelings concerning children being named ****.