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This child's arithmetic question seems to be doing the rounds on Facebook at the moment as a poll.

So far the results are:

[code][b]28: ย 44,870 votes
26: 532,475 votes
30: ย 60,095 votes
ย 0: 800,597 votes[/b][/code]

Who says standards of mathematics are slipping eh? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:43 pm
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It's 0, right...?


 
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what's the operator precedence ? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
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For the mathematically confused: [url= http://www.mathsisfun.com/operation-order-pemdas.html ]PEDMAS[/url].

(or [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/maths/number/orderoperationrev1.shtml ]BODMAS[/url] if you want to be very British about it)


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:46 pm
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Who says standards of mathematics are slipping eh?

The smug?


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:46 pm
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0 isn't it?


 
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BODMAS? if so, 26


 
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26 assuming conventional precedence.


 
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Anything multiplied by 0 will give an answer of 0.


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:48 pm
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BODMAS? if so, 26
26 assuming conventional precedence.

Hurrah, the engineers arrive ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:48 pm
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Lol


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:50 pm
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Hmm. Maths is dumb. If you have something and then multiple it by nothing, then how can the something that you had suddenly become nothing? Where's the logic in that?


 
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Anything multiplied by 0 will give an answer of 0.

it's only the last 2 that is multiplied by 0.

2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+(2 x 0)


 
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Anything multiplied by 0 will give an answer of 0.

Yes it will. But your still wrong


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:51 pm
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I'd be interested in the professions/jobs of anyone who does not think this is 0.

My 9 year old strolled past - saw this thread and laughed - saying "anything multiplied by zero is zero... isn't it..."

Any arguments about this will be about the way it is written and what it "means"


 
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Engineer. And it is not zero


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:52 pm
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My 9 year old strolled past - saw this thread and laughed - saying "anything multiplied by zero is zero... isn't it..."

Tell her maths teacher!


 
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And there we go... yes we all remember BODMAS from school... but in the real world the operations are performed sequentially unless the brackets are explicit...


 
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Software Engineer - it's 26


 
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Surely, the only way to have this not equalling zero, is if there were some brackets missed off the op...?


 
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Should be 26. Multiply / divide operations take precedence over add / subtract, then you evaluate left to right. So, you've got the first twelve 2's for a total of 28, minus 2 to see if you're being observant to make 26, then plus (2 x 0) to still equal 26.

EDIT: Wow, a lot of posts whilst I typed that. Never heard of BODMAS etc.


 
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Yes it will. But your still wrong

How can that be both wrong and right.
Any number multiplied by zero is zero. The answer to the problem stated above might be different from that statement, but there is nothing to connect the two. Linguist who might be considered cunning.


 
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It's very worrying when something like this has more people picking the wrong answer!

To agree with those above, the answer is 26.

It's just unfortunate that there isn't an additional 1 at the front of the list, then it could have been in RPN... ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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I'd be interested in the professions/jobs of anyone who does not think this is 0.

I'd suspect they'll be mostly software geeks or engineers.

Software Engineer myself, so I [i]know[/i] it's not zero ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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[i]I'd be interested in the professions/jobs of anyone who does not think this is 0.[/i]

Engineer - 26


 
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26. Jeebus weeps.


 
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Surely, the only way to have this not equalling zero, is if there were some brackets missed off the op...?

no, because it's convention to do the multiplication bit first, in the absence of any brackets.


 
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Yes it will. But your still wrong

How can that be both wrong and right.
Any number multiplied by zero is zero. The answer to the problem stated above might be different from that statement, but there is nothing to connect the two.

True


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:57 pm
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Here's the working for those struggling:

[code]2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+2 x 0
 
= (2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2) + (2 x 0)
 
= (26) + (0)
 
= 26[/code]

Those getting zero are reading it as (2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2-2+2) x 0 which is wrong.


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:58 pm
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I'd be interested in the professions/jobs of anyone who does not think this is 0.

I work in IT, but that's not why I know it's not zero. I know it's not zero because I went to school.


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 6:59 pm
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my 9 & 11 yr-olds say it's zero (9yr - anything x zero is zero) and 32 (11yr - saw them all as plusses on her 1 second skim ๐Ÿ™„ )

how many lashes of the cat for each ?


 
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This is basic [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/maths/number/orderoperationrev1.shtml ]GSCE maths[/url] by the way ๐Ÿ˜€

I'd ask the zero folk what they think 2 + 3 x 5 - 4 is?

(Hint: it's 13)


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:01 pm
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Engineer - 26
minus 26 !! - jees, you don't build anyhting important do you IanM ?


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:01 pm
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I've reached the dizzy heights of 46 years old without ever knowing that pedmas thing.

Should I be bothered? (i'm not...)


 
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Mech Eng - 26.

What's infinity times zero then?


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:03 pm
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minus 26 !! - jees, you don't build anyhting important do you IanM ?

Yeah but he always starts at the top ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:03 pm
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Good thread, BTW. More please.


 
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I'd be interested in the professions/jobs of anyone who does not think this is 0.

I'm going for 26 (admin for accountancy practice). Would probably have got it right aged about 8 though.


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:04 pm
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yes we all remember BODMAS from school... but in the real world the operations are performed sequentially unless the brackets are explicit...

๐Ÿ˜ฏ

[url= http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2%2B2-2%2B2x0 ]The real world yesterday.[/url]


 
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scardypants - your 11 yr old is right (in octal)


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:07 pm
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What's infinity times zero then?

That'll be undefined...

Infinities are buggers like that...


 
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What a packet of nonsense. You could just as easily say it's 24:

(2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2)+((2+2)x0))

Or any other number of combinations.

There's no brackets in the original sum. Therefore it is zero, if it is to be interpreted as it is writed. You can't just add brackets in to try to look clever you know.


 
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scardypants - your 11 yr old is right (in octal)
Gawd, you must win a prize for that flap_jack ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 11/10/2011 7:10 pm
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Yeah Elf, except there are set rules, taught at GCSE level maths, that define exactly how it should be read.

And they say it is 26.

You can't just add brackets in to try to look clever you know.

I didn't - they are just to illustrate who to read it in the correct BODMAS/PEMDAS order.


 
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Some of you lot wooduv bin beaten up on a daily basis if you'd gone my school.

I hope you actually were. You deserved it.


 
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