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Ian Lavery held on. Small mercies. He's going to be a big voice in the future direction. If he gets his way it won't be in the direction of Starmer or Thornberry. Brexit has truly broken the labour party. The policies were popular, apart from one.
I think they need to argue for a close relationship with Europe.
Thornberry would never win an election for labour.
Turnout -12.6% so far
Bet most of those are remainers.
Con gain Darlington
Lab gain Jarrow
Are either of those significant? I have no idea.
What an utter **** Aaron Banks is. I really struggle to express how much I despise him.
(just been interviewed on BBC, not just a random statement)
Good chance that Zac Goldsmith might lose his seat
Turnout in Jo Swinsons seat is apparently over 80%. I wonder if that will save her.
Jarrow is a hold not a gain - no Labour gains yet - best chance of those is in London, everywhere else looks pretty bleak.
I wonder if that will save her
Lets hope not. It'll be one of the few silver linings. I'm still not resigning myself to this till the metropolitan seats start coming in. The north east was always going to be a massive problem for labour, and the city seats won't compensate for the losses, but it'll be interesting to see what happens in remain areas.
Jarrow is a hold not a gain – no Labour gains yet
I think you might be right. Looks like the Guardian's tracker is wrong then:
(No reason for picking that as a source other than it appearing after Google's own and seemed to update quickly, open to better suggestions)
Yep need to see some remain seats. 10% swing Lab to Con in every Leave seat
Good chance that Zac Goldsmith might lose his seat
Yep. He was lucky to win in 2017.
I can’t sleep.
Turnout in Jo Swinsons seat is apparently over 80%. I wonder if that will save her.
Meant to be close. Should know in an hour…
Wrexham gone to tories, remain vote splintered. Nowt to do with brexit obviously.
Putney gone to labour. Interesting.
The Eigg box arrived safely.
Labour have just taken Putney.
That a definite? Putney was Greening’s seat, wasn’t it?
Labour just held Putney.
It was a gain. First of the night. Justine Greening's seat.
Yeah, edited!
To be honest, I was expecting Labour to grab Putney. Heavily remain area. I don’t think the Tories will be too disappointed with that one.
PC hold Arfon with an increased majority, 4% swing. Remainer MP.
The new Tory MP for Wrexham apparently had been a nurse and social worker. And a Tory??!
conservatives can be convinced to vote labour if the leader doesn’t have raving communist lunatics as advisors. History shows that they can be convinced.
The polls said different. We are in a different time. Polarisation is in, compromise is for girlie swots.
I agree that in the past centrist voters could be pulled by centrist policies but that is a vanishingly small constituency in today's post-trump, post-truth world.
Good chance that Zac Goldsmith might lose his seat
Always likely, he would be swimming against the tide to survive.
The new Tory MP for Wrexham apparently had been a nurse and social worker. And a Tory??!
Dorries was a nurse.
Tories win Tony Blair's old seat.
The polls said different. We are in a different time. Polarisation is in, compromise is for girlie swots.
Polarisation is a blackhole, if you want Labour to get in you have to counter the flight to the extremes because the right will always win that game in the UK. Throughout history these political standoffs are a coin flip, a crap shoot, Russian roulette etc etc.
It is how democracies end.
Bollocks Cairns got back in in my constituency. Slimey toad
The way I read the situation is that Brexit was the issue
You've abandoned the dark side and moved into the light! Oh course it was in a lot of regions. The labour losses have coincided exactly with the cons and brexit gains. In the early reports from the red wall areas the brexit party are taking a bigger chunk of labour's losses than the Tories.
However, early projections from Swindon? Showed labour down 5% in a remain area. So there it seems that Corbyn probably is the problem. It is half the swing of leave areas though.
Who's "Alliance" when it's at home?
Polarisation is a blackhole, if you want Labour to get in you have to counter the flight to the extremes b
If you an figure out how to do that, you will be able to turn a worldwide trends around. Parties closer to the extreme right and left are on the up around the world.
Who’s “Alliance” when it’s at home?
Non-sectarian NI party, allied to but not the same as the LDs (for example, Naomi Long didn’t take the coalition whip 2010-15)
f you an figure out how to do that, you will be able to turn a worldwide trends around. Parties closer to the extreme right and left are on the up around the world.
Better people than me are working on it.
But we need more people taking an interest.
I have about 10 books to read on mass movements, counter insurgency, red teaming and geopolitics to get through first.
Here in Bassetlaw you just hear people talking up Boris.
Astonishing. I wonder what Joe Ashton is thinking.
Alliance
They are the Norn Iron party aren't they? They had a seat in 2010?
Guardian journalist suggesting Miliband might be in trouble, he has a 14,000 majority. Seems unlikely.
There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.
I have about 10 books to read
Might want to start with bunker building, ration hoarding and hand to hand combat. Also how to make medicines out of household waste.
Farage and Bercow finding much to agree about (and laugh about) on C4.
ITV coverage is pretty good, quicker on results than BBC, no Bercow and not too much Peston, thankfully.
Non-sectarian NI party, allied to but not the same as the LDs (for example, Naomi Long didn’t take the coalition whip 2010-15)
Ah, right. Thank you.
Jess though.
There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.
Man are they going to be disappointed.
Not much Bercow? **** that.
"His material defect was that he was wrong" - or something to that effect was just said, how can you not be entertained by someone that outrageously confident?
Ian Lavery, almost like he read my earlier comment.
I think what we’re seeing in the Labour heartlands is that people are very aggrieved at the fact that the party has taken a stance on Brexit in the way they have; 17.4m people voted for Brexit, and basically being ignored is not a good recipe. I think democracy prevails. Ignore democracy, and to be quite honest the consequences will come back and bite you.
Is that actually Robert Peston or someone doing an impression of him?
There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.
Yes. I suspect that if brexit is the price of getting govt to do some of the other important stuff that has been ignored for 3 years.
Labour also have to grapple with the idea that they are now a party with 3 divided groups - the urban, University grad socially liberal, the working class, socially conservative, former union people and the young. Good luck getting them in the same tent.