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In theory, you can still live and work in Ireland after Brexit...
Still hanging on for the socialist revolution in 5 years time then you total ****ing morons?
no-one thought you were in favour of socialism.
If the exit polls are right then I suggest that this conservative majority is down to parliament blocking May’s comparatively moderate Brexit deal and has played right into the hands of the extreme Brexiteers.Parliament obstructed the referendum result and the public have responded.
My feelings exactly. I wrote to my MP despite being a remain voter, asking her to back May's deal because I felt if it didn't go through eventually something worse would. Looks like thats going to happen and she'll probably be out of a job 🙁
I don't care - but why does the pound start rising when we're on our way to Brexit?
No it was Brexit. Corbyn was trapped on the fence and that cost him. Victim of circumstance, because he made himself into the man who had to respect democracy. Blair won because he was messianic, he did what he wanted to do. Corbyn was never like that and couldn’t have been.
It wasn't Brexit.
It's that people were more worried by Corbyn than Brexit.
Ya'll true believers keep telling yourself that though.
I need a STIFF drink!
Can someone pass the bottle of bleach please...
Sigh, I agree with Binners
Sydney is literally on fire.... and I'd still rather be here.
If nothing else at least these ****s will now have to own the Brexit shitshow that is coming.
So, looking into this data a little more (according to the BBC news feed).
They have asked 23,790 people at 144 polling stations.
The reality is there are 650 seats and 30 odd million voters, how the hell can you take the exit poll seriously??
They have taken the word of the very few people from each polling station who were prepared to tell them who they voted for. That is 165 people at each of the exit polls they surveyed. That is a very small sample and it is very easy to skew the result based on such a small sample size.
Lol at the socialist echo dome imploding! 😂
Corbyn has failed for much the same reasons that Michael Foot, a generation ago, failed. Nothing to do with Brexit.
It only took Neil Kinnock a decade to sort out the Labour party and get it to the point where Blair could win.
Get ready for 2035!
I need out.
Nothing to do with Brexit.
Give over.
It wasn’t Brexit.
And yet that's all the largest party is offering....
I need a new info bubble
raybanwomble
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Agree with Binners, we in the UK do not have a culture of left wing politics of the Corbyn variety
Utter bollox. Speak for your self and the rest of your tory southern pals. There is a long history of much more radical leftwing thought and politics. Corbyn is not even radical at all. YOu think he is because of the constant media feeding.
Vast swathes of the UK have not voted tory in decades.
What this shows is the malign effects of the biased media and the vile racist attitudes of some. It also shows how dysfunctional our electoral system is.
People don't ****ing care what the conservatives were offering, they knew what they were getting - and many of those who voted Tory seem to have done it through gritted teeth.
It's just that what Labour were offering scared them.
Better the devil you know. Brexit is a known quantity now, Corbynism isn't - and people weren't prepared to take a risk again.
If you supported Corbyn then you’re a ****ing idiot. It’s that simple
So you're advocating supporting the Tories?
Need more popcorn
OK chaps - we are all angry and upset. Lets ( me included) calm down a bit.
Brexit is a known quantity now.
Errrrrm...
It was Brexit not Corbyn FFS. How do I know because we had an election not long ago with him as the leader.
BUT granted this campaign was shit too many spending promises. Corbyn and Mcdonnell will be gone.
I don't see anyone in the LP I think can win the next election.
& Jo Swinson looking likely to lose her seat
If you supported Corbyn then you’re a ****ing idiot. It’s that simple
No, it's not. Shouting abuse at us isn't going to change that. **** off and go to bed mate seriously.
Gulp...think I’ll stay here in Austria.
I blame Ed Milliband. If he hadn’t run vs David, I reckon the latter would have done better in 2015.
People, please. I know there's a lot of anger here tonight, but please don't take it out on each other.
I have to go to work tomorrow knowing the abuse I'll get from the majority of my Brexit-loving, immigrant-hating, Tory-voting co-workers, please don't make this place the same.
I don’t care – but why does the pound start rising when we’re on our way to Brexit?
Because markets like certainty. Buy on rumour, sell on fact. It would have gone up no matter who won as long as someone got a majority. Most of a conservative majority had already been priced into the pound. Don't expect it to stay that way as the quick brexit turn out to drag on for months or years.
Binners, you're pissing off a number of people who currently class you as a friend.
Give it a rest.
It was Brexit not Corbyn FFS. How do I know because we had an election not long ago with him as the leader.
If it was Brexit they would have been murdered during the 2017 election, back then people knew less about Corbyn and were less scared of him. The intervening years allowed him to show his colours and allowed the conservatives to character assassinate him - because it's ****ing easy to do that to him.
It was Corbym - and momentum need to **** off and die and let the grown ups take charge of the labour party again.
Lol at Blyth vs Sunderland. You fools! You’ve both lost!
Hysteria much gentlemen? Lewis Goodhall of Sky points out the the Exit Poll includes 65 seats that are 'too close to call' from data by Britain Elects. I'm not holding my breath but the schadenfreude will be strong if:
a) It's a hung parliament or wafer thin Tory majority
b) Uxbridge elect the Labour MP.
Small wins, I know but we need more consensus politics for the next session not tribalism. EDIT We need at least 2 more hung parliaments to encourage the fools to work together for the betterment of all.
Also if you are a non-Tory voter but didn't vote for the candidate that was in a strong second to remove the Tory you have only yourself to blame.
BInners / Rayban - are you saying then Labour need to turn back into a rightwing party? A sort of tory lite?
If the Labour Party cling to the belief that it was Brexit not Corbyn and so stay a corbynite party into the next election they will a) lose more seats and b) find something else to blame.
So. I wonder what the Tories are actually going to do?
They promised more hospitals and nurses. We won't get any of those, for sure. What else was there? Are councils going to get the money they need?
If the Labour Party cling to the belief that it was Brexit not Corbyn and so stay a corbynite party into the next election they will a) lose more seats and b) find something else to blame.
Probably Jews.
I suppose in a way, Corbyn, Milne, Murphy, McCluskey and the rest of them all get what they want...in a way.
Hopefully, they’ll all be gone by the end of next week. I can’t see how they have any other option if they’ve overseen such a (projected) fall in Labour’s seat share.
Are we going to see Ruth Davidson in the buff then?
The Labour Party is in a death spiral into utter irrelevance
The results coming in are showing 15%+ swings away from labour to the Tory’s in the’Red Wall’ labour heartlands
HELLO!!!
FFS!
Let’s do the 80’s all over again. It was so much fun last time
I'm watching TV now but on the radio Marr and other BBC bods were quick to say Boris would go all One Nation with big spending plans and a soft Brexit.
Corbun played a huge part in Labour's defeat. I jokingly asked a colleague today if her red jumper was a display of her voting intention and she launched is a diatribe of anti-Corbyn abuse, most of it wrong, that she clearly picked up from SM and the RW Press.
Many of my ex-Forces friends are pro-EU but so anti-Corbyn they couldn't vote for Labour.
I’m watching TV now but on the radio Marr and other BBC bods were quick to say Boris would go all One Nation with big spending plans and a soft Brexit.
Whilst I’d love that to be the case, nothing he has done to date gives me any confidence that’s how it’s going to go...
Can someone ban binners for a few hours please?
I’m not growing a mullet again.
If it was Brexit they would have been murdered during the 2017 election, back then people knew less about Corbyn and were less scared of him
How do you figure that? Ukip/brexit party didn't pull candidates in order to get brexit done in 2017. May didn't have a get brexit done slogan and an oven ready brexit plan. She also didn't hide in a fridge.
I don’t care – but why does the pound start rising when we’re on our way to Brexit?
Business (and lenders / investors especially) need certainty. And generally downsides have upsides so that attracts some investors. Bear in mind that those that decided not in invest in UK plc post Brexit have already bailed. So today reflects an expectation of slight inflow of capital.
So the main difference between this and the 2017 election for Labour is offering another vote on Brexit.