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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-14894576

seems the forum mods on here are relatively lenient!


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:20 pm
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terribly bad taste, but quite possibly a work of abstract genius:

He also posted a video on YouTube, entitled Tasha the Tank Engine, showing the children's character Thomas the Tank Engine with Miss MacBryde's face.

Dave

edit: just read in more detail about how she died... even worse taste than I had originally thought.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:22 pm
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You can't deny we do black humour better than most in this country though.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:24 pm
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Goes way beyond bad taste, I don't know exactly what law they used to bang him up, if its under some "electronics communications" act then I haven't heard about it, but it seems quite a fair sentence to pass in this case.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:25 pm
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Guy needs psychiatric help rather than locking up - seriously twisted individual.....


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:26 pm
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We were chatting about this in the office, since when did trolling become illegal. Tasteless - yes, an abhorent thing to do - yes but did he actually break a law?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:28 pm
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Sounds like a right c**t, but is it much different from the stuff some comedians do?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:28 pm
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It should surely mean a life sentence for some if the Big Hitters (tm) on here. 😆


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:30 pm
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here you go MSP
Malicious Communications Act 1988 section 1
(This is the wording of this section as amended by Section 43 Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001. It applies to offences committed from the 11th May 2001 onwards)
(1) Any person who sends to another person
(a) a letter, electronic communication or article of any description which conveys
(i) a message which is indecent or grossly offensive
(ii) a threat or
(iii) information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender or
(b) any article or electronic communication which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,
is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated.

(2) A person is not guilty of an offence by virtue of subsection (1)(a)(ii) above if he shows
(a) that the threat was used to reinforce a demand made by him on reasonable grounds and
(b) that he believed, and had reasonable grounds for believing, that the use of the threat was a proper means of reinforcing the demand.

(2A) In this section 'electronic communication' includes _
(a) any oral or other communication by means of a telecommunication system(within the meaning of the Telecommunications Act 1984 (c12)); and
(b) any communication (however sent) that is in electronic form.

(3) In this section references to sending include references to delivering or transmitting and to causing to be sent, delivered or transmitted and 'sender' shall be construed accordingly.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:31 pm
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Maybe there is a law against being an arsehole after all?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:32 pm
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A friends teenaged son committed suicide by throwing himself under a train..

Whilst at the funeral service I hastily reminded another friend to turn his mobile off when I remembered his ring tone was the Thomas the Tank Engine theme tune..

It was lucky that I did as he had actually forgotten to do it.. 😕


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:35 pm
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The classic troll, IMO..
[url= http://robotmantheblog.com/2006/10/25/so-i-guess-i-got-kicked-off-another-my-little-pony-forum/ ]Clicky linky...[/url]
Contains rude words.


 
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[i]Malicious Communications Act 1988 section 1

(1) Any person who sends to another person
(a) a letter, electronic communication or article of any description which conveys
(i) a message which is indecent or grossly offensive
(ii) a threat or
(iii) information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender[/i]

That covers every thread on here! 😯


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:42 pm
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CFH - the original version of MLP troll is much longer than that, I'll see if I can find it.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:42 pm
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*opens thread hoping it's about FredBra*
🙁


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 3:58 pm
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Goes way beyond bad taste, I don't know exactly what law they used to bang him up, if its under some "electronics communications" act then I haven't heard about it, but it seems quite a fair sentence to pass in this case.

Indeed. What a nasty peice of work.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:01 pm
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so in English, you can get busted for:

"Sending an email which conveys information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender". Or by extrapolatino, if you post a lie on a thread, you've undertaken a criminal act? Whats the test?

what a crock of poo. Why wasnt there an outcry when this law was written?

EDIT> Aha phil.w, you missed off the important bit: "with intent to cause distress or anxiety."


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:03 pm
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Jeez, Mr Duffy sure knows how to have a laugh. Shame he's banned or I would've added him as a FB friend.
Strange how he also actually [i]looks[/i] like a troll. Maybe that's what gave him away.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:04 pm
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chuckle


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:10 pm
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yes but did he actually break a law?

the convicted in court bit was a clue for me.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:16 pm
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I wonder how he would have got his kicks without the internet?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:19 pm
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I wonder how he would have got his kicks without the internet?

Nicking dinner money and punching the geeky kids like most bullies, I suspect.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:22 pm
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Unbelievable.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:25 pm
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There's tw*tish trolling (some of it amusing) and then there’s highly offensive behavior committed by unpleasant inadequates like Mr Duffy - that clearly engage S1 of the above act. The vast majority of people can distinguish the two apart despite the murky cross-over I would suggest.

Despite a lot of the balls that gets batted about on STW I've never seen anything that I would deem a Malicious Communication per se - but it’s food for thought, particularly for those that think anonymous internet forums or social networking sites are not ‘real life’ and as such they can’t be held to account for their submissions - something Mr Duffy may ponder over the coming weeks.

It would be interesting to know what a MOD’s view is on this?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:37 pm
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"Sending an email which conveys information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender".

There is a God

See you all in 6 monthd


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 4:54 pm
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I think he used some sort of 'diminished responsibility' trump card too, as in he suffers from Aspergers syndrome. Thankfully the judge gave him maximum sentence available to him but this case proves that it's all too easy for cyber bullies to be effective in causing distress.

He would have got the same sentence for handling a bottle of water stolen by a looter in Aldi 🙄


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:10 pm
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Despite a lot of the balls that gets batted about on STW I've never seen anything that I would deem a Malicious Communication per se

Did you miss the thread that got closed last night then ❓

😆


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:23 pm
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i woke up to find the thread closed, then deleted... probably sensible choice by the mods otherwise i might have been taken to court by my housemate 😉


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:27 pm
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REALLY PHILLY?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:29 pm
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careful now deadly, i'm known for my shouty persona on here you know 😆


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:30 pm
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Has anyone got a bottom bracket I could borrow?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:34 pm
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Yes, but if you're not publicly appreciative of it, I'll be QUITE SHOUTY ON INTERNET FORUMz 😛


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 5:43 pm
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What a sad, nasty, pathetic little man he is.


 
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😆

didnt mind that he was dismissive of the offer, just perplexed how he could say such nasty things about me with the the caveat that he had met me in real life, when our real life meeting consisted of the situation as described lol.

i'm used to people being dismissive of kindness and help in my job, its all cool 8)

there's a couple of very popular groups on facebook with people who regularly partake in the same kinda stuff as the guy who was sent dahhhn, recently they've been posting on the 'RIP mark duggan' groups 🙁 all very destructive and the only reason is to upset people for cheap laughs. somebody made a good point above about it not being far off what a lot of modern comedians do though!

now the details of the law have been posted on STW will we see certain forum members dragging it up the moment someone disagrees with them on a thread?


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 6:19 pm
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He posted and paid the price of being a prat.

Sounds like the trolls of STW.


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 6:41 pm
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Flame me if you like but I'm not sure I agree with this.

What he did was despicable but I can't see how its a criminal act. Whatever happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

And yes he has caused the family distress but it shoud be a civil matter of slander or defamation of character. Putting people in jail for being dickheads onine seems like a very sippery slope


 
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To me this is the most frightening thing to have happened in the UK in my lifetime. It's official... we do not have freedom of speech and you better be very careful what you say on the internet. The guy who has been jailed here seems to be a cock (is it safe for me to insult anyone anymore?) but he harmed no one and jailing someone for being a dick and trolling a message board belongs in China or Iran and not in a supposedly free country.

There have been cases of bullying around schools where people KNOW the other people and this can be dangerous and I think it's right to put a stop to it, but this is not the same in my eyes. Am I in danger of being jailed for saying that I thought Amy Wino was a waste of space and the world is no worse off without her, or that Diana Spencer was a bigger waste of national resources than the Olympics and she was actually very harmful to the security of nations through her ignorantly sticking her nose in where it didn't belong?

Apparently having an opinion that strongly opposes the popular masses is an illegal act now; bet you won't see many arrests based on Imams in London Mosques preaching the downfall and utter destruction of Western civilized nations any time soon though.


 
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Apparently having an opinion that strongly opposes the popular masses is an illegal act now; bet you won't see many arrests based on Imams in London Mosques preaching the downfall and utter destruction of Western civilized nations any time soon though.

I was wondering when our first closet racist would turn up.

Excellent, have a banana
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+1 coyote

he was out of order with you Phil , couldn't believe what I was reading, kinda ruins the forum for me people like that .


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 8:38 pm
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That wasn't racist at all, yossarian. Muslims are not a race.

😉


 
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"I was wondering when our first closet racist would turn up. "

I consider anyone who doesn't know what a race is to be rather more racially offensive than I would ever dream of being. And I am right too! 🙂

However, I am quite sure that associating a religion with people from a particular location is about as racist as it gets.

Now stop being racist on the forum; it disgusts me and makes me feel a little sick! 🙂


 
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Oooo I bet it was captain (although point well made an' all that) 😉

Edit: oh hi razor! Dunno what this country is coming to, it'll be illegal to fly the cross of St. George soon but Muslims will be allowed free bus passes. It's all very dark.


 
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cheers jamesy, you can't see me right now but i'm shutting my eyes and nodding in quiet agreement. with the right lighting and music it'd make a good close up.

lets forget all that though and get back to enjoying this fine forum 😀

looks like this threads about to get interesting with razor's entry!

it's a worn out cliche and has probably already been typed in the time its taken me to write this whilst watching a film, but i may need to put the kettle on and find some biscuits..


 
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It may well have been, Yossarian, but if you're going to throw stones, do it from the outside of your glass house! 🙂


 
Posted : 13/09/2011 8:44 pm
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Anyone know any dead baby jokes?


 
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