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Regarding the issue of sexual consent; Lesbian organisations such as Lesbian Strength and Get The L out are objecting to being ‘erased’ by a tiny minority of so called trans activists who accuse Lesbians of transphobia if they say they don’t want to have sex with biological males, regardless of gender status. Because they will only consent to having sex with women, biological women. Because Lesbianism is all about female sexual attraction to other females. As a heterosexual man, I only consent to having sex with women, biological females. I do not subscribe to the view that ‘trans women are women’. That does not make me a ‘transphobe’ as some people might cry, as I am not actually erasing or denying anyone else’s humanity. I am fully supportive of Lesbians who want to protect their sexuality, and of women who want to protect their own status of womanhood and sex based rights. As are many trans people.
I think a lot of people need to actually learn the distinction between sex and gender. One is biological fact, the other is a human social construct. I have no problem with accepting someone within whatever gender they choose, be it masculine, feminine, or a more ‘fluid’ form.
I think a lot of people need to actually learn the distinction between sex and gender.
And we're back to page 2.
And this particular circle of Hell continues.
If I were you I would go back and read the thread from the start. You might actually learn something.
Personally, I'm not going to type out the same thing over and over again only for people to completely ignore it and just repeat the same half truths and outright falsehoods over and over and over again.
If you can't be bothered to even read the thread I really don't see why anyone has to respond to you.
If you can’t be bothered to even read the thread I really don’t see why anyone has to respond to you.
I’ve read through the thread. I have the same opinions and views, and knowledge of the distinction between sex and gender that I started with. Sorry if you find that unsatisfactory. If you’d like to convince me your argument is the right one, you’re kind of going about it the wrong way…
As a heterosexual man, I only consent to having sex with women, biological females. I do not subscribe to the view that ‘trans women are women’.
Women don’t need you to consent to have sex with them in order to be women.
I think you’ve missed the point, Kelvin.
The point is that you want to define people in a way that aligns with your own sexual choices. Sleep with who you want, as long as they want to sleep with you. That has nothing to do with whether someone should be misgendered.
I have the same opinions and views, and knowledge of the distinction between sex and gender that I started with.
And yet you still find the need to state your opinions as if they are fact and tell the rest of us we simply don't know these facts.
I'm never going to convince you of anything. You refuse to engage in any kind of dialogue and just continue to spout the same opinions as if they are facts with no effort to actual prove that your opinions have any basis in reality.
I'm never going to convince you because all you're here to do is troll and I don't really feel like playing this game with you anymore.
But yes, you're going to come up with another blatant falsehood soon that others are going to repeat as facts and then I'm going to get drawn in again so I guess ultimately you win.
This place ****ing sucks, sometimes.
As a heterosexual man, I only consent to having sex with women, biological females
Having been happily married for 20 years, it's not an issue I've had to face, but if I was single and dating a woman who turned out to be trans, I'm not sure I could make such an emphatic statement. You love who you love.
and are still ignoring male violence towards women.
And by the way, you are also ignoring violence by men against women.
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment
The only person I’ve seen do that, is you. It may have been a ‘joke’, but you literally said ‘help I’m being cancelled’.
Of course it was a joke, good grief. There was even a smiley at the end.
Multiple people have complained about being shut down.
Having been happily married for 20 years, it’s not an issue I’ve had to face, but if I was single and dating a woman who turned out to be trans, I’m not sure I could make such an emphatic statement. You love who you love
I rather think that if I met someone who was trans I would expect them to tell me at an early stage of the relationship. It’s something the other person has a right to know.