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[Closed] Did Tom Pidcock win the Men's Olympic XC? Or Did Nino Schurter? Spoilers!

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The men’s Olympic mountain bike race threw up more than a few surprises. Van der Poel crashed and Pidcock started 4th row back on the grid. The usual ...

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https://singletrackworld.com/2021/07/did-tom-pidcock-win-the-mens-olympic-xc-or-did-nino-schurter-spoilers/


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:43 am
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Fantastic win!


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:44 am
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Looks like a proper mountain bike course.
Not a farmer's field with a rocks dropped in, like was done in 2012.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:50 am
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It was a fantastic win. Obviously wasn't easy but he did make it look that way at times - was impressed at how smoothly he rode.

Mvdp probably ruing lack of time on the mtb to prepare. I guess it was a mistake that any could have made but maybe just one switch of discipline too much this year.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:56 am
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Bloody great win for Tom and what a race plus that course looks mental


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 10:35 am
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Mvdp probably ruing lack of time on the mtb to prepare

Or not using a dropper?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 10:44 am
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Fantastic ride from Tom! Made a Monday morning much more bearable! 😀

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Have you ever ridden the 2012 XC course? I think you're selling it short by a long way...


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 10:58 am
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The story seems to be that Van der Poel thought that the wooden ramp that was in place during practice at that drop would be there for the race. Seems unlikely they would have left it there.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:03 am
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Hi - Before i read the spoliers, is the full race anywhere? On IPlayer? I'd like to watch the full thing if possible?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:10 am
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On iPlayer, but you have to switch between red button coverage to BBC one part way through. Probably listed as the 6:00-9:00 time slot.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:14 am
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MVP and the wooden ramp! Nope I dont see that happening. Everyone was clearing that drop in practice with out a ramp. Check out Evie Richard's Instagram for some air time.
I think he was unlucky, everyone makes errors on each lap. His was just on that drop.
Shame we didn't get the shoot out between Tom and MVP. Truly gutted for MVP and Cink.

But what a ride from Tom. Outstanding.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:19 am
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GCN+ has it.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:19 am
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Mvdp probably ruing lack of time on the mtb to prepare.

Unlike Tom, who broke his collarbone 7 weeks ago.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:25 am
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Awesome ride by Tom. Just brilliant.
MvDP - well I thought he turned up much later than the others- certainly the photos of him practicing seemed days later. I don't know if that was the case but seems madness to be under prepped for that track and think the ramp was to be there.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:37 am
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Unlike Tom, who broke his collarbone 7 weeks ago.

...and was riding again 5 days later, did ride the Les Gets World Cup, wasn't riding the biggest road grand tour 2 weeks ago and has been in Japan for 2 weeks preparing.

Its not a criticism of MvdP - it must be tough being one of the greatest multi-discipline riders of all time. Just saying that this course maybe needed that extra step up to feel really comfortable on the bike due to its technicality. Or maybe it really was just an unlucky error.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:38 am
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MvdP has confirmed that he didn't know the ramp was to be removed.
Gutted for him and Cink with the rolled tyre/puncture.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:23 pm
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I'm not sure I can call what I do 'riding XC' anymore, looking at what the course is like.
think I'll need to downgrade to 'mincing about in the woods'

cracking ride by tom.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:00 pm
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https://twitter.com/RNBWCV/status/1419544101721104386


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:12 pm
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Yea, MvDP IG story says he didn't know the ramp was to be removed for the race, and that's how his crash looked, gutted for him. Bit of a booboo there somewhere either on his team's part or the course info.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:29 pm
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absolutely nothing about it i can find on bbc i player.

you would have thought they might have been shouting about it a bit considering it's the first gold for gb mtb but seems not 😠


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:37 pm
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Brilliant news for Tom!


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 1:40 pm
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There's now a real chance that Ineos may win gold in MTB, road and TT if Ganna does what he normally does.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 2:18 pm
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There’s now a real chance that Ineos may win gold in MTB, road and TT if Ganna does what he normally does

Hadn't thought about that one! Brilliant ride from TP


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 2:25 pm
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utterly fantastic, what a ride!


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 2:27 pm
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Fantastic ride from Tom, really well timed, just seemed to know exactly what he was doing, although the commentary on eurosport was shocking, 3 min advert while they were on the second lap, they wouldn't have an advert half way through england v italy first half would they


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 2:36 pm
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Bit of a booboo there somewhere either on his team’s part or the course info.

Probably why his team came out quite strongly saying 'we told him, repeatedly, that the plank wasn't there' etc. etc.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 2:39 pm
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absolutely nothing about it i can find on bbc i player.

Admittedly not Iplayer, but https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/57967799 - from the front page of BBC News...admittedly not the whole race, but seems to be plenty coverage of the result.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:00 pm
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Awesome race, brutal course. Tom is on another level to pretty much everyone else. That kid is going places!


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:00 pm
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I thought the commentary wasn't great. Disappointed Eurosport went for the world feed, and not their own 'in house' commentators. Seeing as GMBN, is part of GCN, surely some of them would have been better.
The difference in presentation between the road races, and the MTB was noticeable......


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:06 pm
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MVDP allegedly beleived the ladder/wood from practise would remain in the race. Although he was easily clearing it in practise.

Was this a bit of CX style gamesmanship, electing to slow up and roll it rather than jump it knowing that he had top contender and excellent descender TP right on his wheel?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:23 pm
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"Tom Pidcock took the gold in his second ever Olympics, while Schurter failed to get a medal for the first time in four Olympic cycles."

Erm when was Pidcock's first Olympics?

Great work Tom and big ups for the UK XC racing crowd.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:26 pm
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The difference in presentation between the road races, and the MTB was noticeable……

C'mon the camera work was brilliant for fans of Japanese foliage.

What a ride though, the course was mental

Pidcock showing how its done. That drop wouldn't be out of place on an enduro course


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:34 pm
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No mention of MTB or TP whatsoever last night on BBC 1 when they went through "Monday's medal prospects". Really suggested that they hadn't done any homework on what was happening in XCO this year.

Wonder if they'll suddenly remember Evie exists in tonight's roundup?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:45 pm
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Probably why his team came out quite strongly saying ‘we told him, repeatedly, that the plank wasn’t there’ etc. etc.

Interesting. Do you have a link?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:46 pm
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That was a XC course!?

Jeez, I'm old. And a wuss.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:53 pm
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There are conflicting versions of events coming out of the Dutch camp, however, reflecting the confusion that reigned supreme during the women's road race, as Dutch coach Gerben de Knegt told national broadcaster NOS that Van der Poel had been told several times the ramp would be removed for the race.

“I was in the woods when it happened, so it's hard for me to judge. He indicated that he thought there would be a ramp. We've talked about that several times, so it shouldn't be [the reason]," De Knegt said.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/mathieu-van-der-poel-didnt-know-they-would-remove-ramp-which-caused-crash-at-tokyo-olympics

Dutch National Coach Gerben de Knegt had a different version of events, however, saying he'd spoken to Van der Poel about the removal of the ramp in the week leading up to the race as well as the morning before the event. "We have talked about it multiple times this week. This morning again."

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/mathieu-van-der-poel-suffers-heavy-fall-as-he-crashes-out-of-tokyo-olympics-mountain-bike-race


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 3:55 pm
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Pidcock showing how its done. That drop wouldn’t be out of place on an enduro course

if thats a screenshot of TP following MVDP rather than a subsequent lap, then its also a good reminder that doing dropoffs you should be centred, giving you the ability to move back or forwards to adjust in the air (like someone crashes below you, when you have already taken off)


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 4:27 pm
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Erm when was Pidcock’s first Olympics?

2nd this. Pretty certain this was Piddcock's first olypics.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 4:35 pm
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Well done, another gold 😀
Now comes all the inquiries from people looking for short travel carbon hardtails.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 4:47 pm
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Don't follow racing at all but what size wheels do they go for and do they use droppers?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 4:55 pm
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All on FS and most with droppers according to this article. Assuming they'll all be 29ers...

Bike Radar


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 5:17 pm
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That course was ace, proper techy sections

Does anyone have a link to show the various bikes the riders were riding. I've seen some sites with generic info but nothing specific about who and what (I know it's the rider, not the bike, that wins the race but interested nonetheless)


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 5:28 pm
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Will nearly all (or in fact all) be on 29 for the Men. Might be a few women on 27.5, not many though these days.

Most use droppers too.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 5:29 pm
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Jeez, I’m old. And a wuss.

No you have a functioning self-preservation gene and an (overactive?) imagination.


 
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