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I've entered a second team in the same pen.

A consensus emerged fast. The most boring debate ever has been avoided.

EVERYONE interested, enter category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1106597

We'll deal with the finer details of who rides in which team nearer the time: decide on here, officialise by zwiftpower tagging...

@kelvinshuffle thank you. I'd rather avoid Google sheet etc if there's a simpler way that'll work. I think two teams is simple enough. The pressure is more towards a latte and a frappe, maybe even a mocha rather than towards espresso. Keep your eye on it though?


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 12:53 pm
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entered!


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 1:04 pm
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The most boring debate ever has been avoided.

I take it you filter the forum to just zwift related threads?


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 1:15 pm
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It's looking like BRT may end up overloaded at the moment so I might be able to join you guys but don't know at the moment.


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 1:19 pm
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I’m also in. Questioning my own sanity though as I’m still suffering the effects of Tuesdays race!


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 1:26 pm
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Entered.

All the entries showing on the app are STW at the minute so we look fairly keen!


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 2:02 pm
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I'm entered! Hopefully I make it 🙂


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 3:05 pm
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I’m in...and I’ve got a new log in, just to avoid confusion. Don’t tell the mods 🤣


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 4:30 pm
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I've entered 🐈 A.


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 6:49 pm
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Already got 12 riders for next week! That’s a good start!


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 7:08 pm
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This is amazing. There is no-one else even signed up in that category yet, just a list of 12 STW riders.

Still 4 more places available. Join category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1106597?__znl=en-gb


 
Posted : 02/10/2020 7:42 pm
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I'm in
13 !


 
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Im in also 14 now.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 10:46 am
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Here's what I'm planning:

- give it until tomorrow, and then post a consolidated list of all our signed up riders to prompt a chat about how to dice them up into two teams.
- then post provisional (but unlikely to change) team tags for zwiftpower on Weds...
.. and confirm them alongside start delays and discord channels for each team on Thurs AM.

There are still two places available. Sign up to category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1106597?__znl=en-gb


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:07 pm
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sounds good! would be amazing to have 2 full teams riding the same race!!


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:21 pm
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Biggest issue is who gets the Bumblebee jersey isn't it?


 
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Just to say I'm definitely only in on STW team 2, I realise I'm late to the party so happy to duck out if 2 squad is over subscribed with others who have posted before me. Eventually I hope I can get back to the 1st team, but i'll get spat instantly on current form even with phil/ brian towing me all the way round haha


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 12:26 pm
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Executive decision (which, ridiculously, I have thought through):

Everyone can be a bumblebee.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 1:03 pm
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Everyone can be a bumblebee.

I think one team will be bumble A won't they?


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 1:29 pm
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I think one team will be bumble A won’t they?

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Posted : 05/10/2020 3:59 pm
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Who is the admin of the discord channel? We need another voice channel added so one for bumble(a) and one for bumble(b)


 
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I think the voice comms will be important. I felt a little distant on the TT event a few weeks ago. I mistakenly disconnected the discord link so when I had a dodgy connection I couldn't cry for help 😂.
I did re connect just as the rest of the team was finishing which was good to hear.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 7:19 pm
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Don't worry I've been sorting discord channels today.


 
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I know Rob gets a lot of praise for the race series but Savoyad deffo deserves a round of applause for taking on the role the STW TTT admin bod - especially given the labyrinthine WTRL regs.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 8:24 pm
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Yep 100% agree Ivan! In some ways my job is easier as people choose whether to ride or not. Trying to get a team together is far harder! Thanks Savoyad!


 
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Sorry cant make it, we've ended up without a full team at 6.30.


 
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yes, thanks to both of you for doing these

on TTTs, is it just me that sometimes can't work out which bumblebee is me?
On the (OK, I admit) ONE that I did, I found myself slightly wishing I was in a different shirt to the rest of the group


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 9:45 pm
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It's all about how you accessorise.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 9:48 pm
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@mrhoppy. It’s ok we aren’t on until 19.40 so you can do both....


 
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I thought about it when you were on the 6.30 and I was riding 7.40 on a Mocha team. Not sure I'll cope with Sand and Sequoia 4 times especially as we seem to be getting 10+min delays in the pen at the moment, so it'd be a minute or so on the changeover.

I'm DS as well this week so I can't even drop out early. Got to have someone to shout at the bellends not moving out of the way.


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 9:59 pm
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When I logged on to warn up last week you can see all the messages from the ttt when you are in the main game. I saw one from you struggling with a hanger on who didn’t want to leave the group. Made me chuckle!


 
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Hanger on!!! It was the whole sodding team taking a draft off us. The week before we had a team we caught for a minute in a lap call us a mess because they accelerated into our draft, wouldn't fall back and split off our last rider.

I must have looked like a right Mardy sod to the normal game dobbers.


 
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I know Rob gets a lot of praise for the race series but Savoyad deffo deserves a round of applause for taking on the role the STW TTT

Savoyad is now owner of the STW Discord channel too, just in case he hasn't enough to do already!😁


 
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Savoyad deffo deserves a round of applause for taking on the role the STW TTT admin bod – especially given the labyrinthine WTRL regs.

Absolutely, and certainly on the WTRL nonsense. I started looking into the full race series and I started to get noise bleeds when they mentioned spot checks on rider weights in the fun leagues


 
Posted : 05/10/2020 11:20 pm
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they mentioned spot checks on rider weights in the fun leagues

That is where they lost me too. Presumably you have to send in a photo of you standing on the scales but that is still open to abuse so unless someone comes to your house I don't know how they can manage it still. Going to stick to the Thursday TTT for me.


 
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Presumably you have to send in a photo of you standing on the scales

It's not so much the how that got me as the why. I can understand in the Premier league but in the non serious ones it's like having to submit a blood test to participate in the parent's race at sports day.

You make it a serious sport by having non serious accessible stuff at the bottom, seems a bit of a own goal to follow the model of polo or dressage instead of football or running.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:24 am
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I'll just drop this dignified random example here shall I?

(I don't think a cat is mandatory).

I assumed it was a cut n paste error from the more serious category at first, but they mention it multiple times. The underlying rules (assuming they mirror the existing attempts at this) are perverse as well - they include a 5% allowance which is actually massive, encourages cheating if anything.

It would be great if we could get involved in that race series. And I suspect there will in reality be much less naked home videoing involved than those rules suggest. But I can really see why the hassle (overall, not just that) is an obstacle at the moment for @dangeourbrain.

Is a "noise bleed" the sound you sometimes make over discord during the TTT Brian? I'll post about that next. Back on topic etc.


 
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Is a “noise bleed”

It the "uhhhhhhhhhh" sound you make when something intangible inflicts a physical wound, such as when someone explains their point of view using the words Daily Mail.

The underlying rules (assuming they mirror the existing attempts at this) are perverse as well

They'd see me (and I'm sure plenty like me) racing in B because my ZP category has been dropped, I'd be back in A on ZP as soon as I've done my first solo race.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 10:55 am
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What headphones do people use? Phil comes across really clearly but you cant even hear me so I am generally just listening in which didn't help last week when I was struggling and then couldn't get the message across but didn't want to delay the team.

I use a Bluetooth headset with an integrated mic but you just cant hear me.

Wondering if I should get a gaming headset with a proper mic (they are only £20) that physically plugs into the computer rather than a Bluetooth connection?


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:00 am
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sounds like there's a few on here worried about getting caught out 😉

It's something else Zwift can't really win with... do nothing & some people will moan that they're paying good money & weight dopers are ruining their experience. Do something like this and others moan you're sucking the fun out of it! In reality it'll take most people 2 minutes if they even actually get selected.


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:03 am
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It's team selection time! We have 14 riders signed up. This is really quite exciting. We need to get into two teams. Max 8 riders per team. Mixed ability is better (more than 3 from your highest cat pulls you up the coffee groups, but that is not a significant issue really). And remember: holding Phil's wheel is considerably less difficult when he wants you to (Thursdays) than when he doesn't (Tuesdays!).

Here's the plan: I'll list the entries. Everyone can then talk to the group. I sense that it's going to coalesce into two teams quite naturally. If I'm wrong, we'll still get there eventually. I'll formalise it in a subsequent post with the necessary start delays / zwiftpower tags / discord channels etc. once the teams are reasonably settled.

Further riders are still welcome. There are two more places. Claim one by signing up to category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1106597

The "squad" looks like this:

@paino B
@dangeourbrain B
@w00dster B
@phil56 B
@scaredypants C almost B
@drew ?C
@zilog6128 C
@ljarch C
@retrorick C
@yanboss C
@robbo1234biking C
@oopnorth C
@weeksy C
@ivandobski D almost C

Please form yourselves into two orderly lines. GO!


 
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I use a Bluetooth headset with an integrated mic but you just cant hear me.
someone... I think you... often sounds like a robot, completely unintelligible!! I think discord is a bit pants & needs a really good connection for whatever reason, could be your mic tho. If it's a cheap one it's probably no good!! I use my normal running bluetooth headphones (Plantronics Backbeat) which have a mic, I [I]think[/I] people can hear me most of the time, but often you don't get any acknowledgement so I'm never really sure (especially if I've got music playing in the background too!)

Probably anything specifically designed as a mic (e.g. gaming headset) rather than something which just has a cheap mic tacked on would be fine. I know the Jabra headsets are supposed to be excellent but they are £££


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:06 am
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@zilog6128 your setup works. I can hear you (not now, obviously, you know what I mean).


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:08 am
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@savoyad thanks that's good to know!!

as much as I would like at least one ride at my own pace rather than desperately hanging onto someone's wheel, I will stick with the original team, it will either kill me or make me faster 😂


 
Posted : 06/10/2020 11:13 am
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Yes it prob is me who you cant hear.

I have a Jabra headset which is my work one which I could try and use but I am not sure if it would fall off or not! It doesn't have ear cups as such (not sure of the technical term) so is fine for work call but if I get up out of the saddle feel like it would fall off. Might try it this week and then look for a gaming headset after that.

sounds like there’s a few on here worried about getting caught out 😉

Not really I think I might actually be lighter than my Zwift weight now as have dropped a bit from the summer. I should get round to updating that actually but not sure 1kg makes a massive difference.

I just don't see how it is viable. My wife did some diet thing where you had to submit your weight with a photo on the scales full body and then one on the scales of feet with a code word provided. But it was so rife with cheating from what I could tell with people posting massive losses each week.

I just think if people want to weight dope then they will. I guess you could make it a video recording perhaps?


 
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