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I haven't signed up yet because I'm not sure if I'll make it but hopefully I'll be there.
I'm going to skip tonight's ttt. I have the option to go biking in the real world today so I think that'll be as much as my legs can take!
@mbs - Martin I assume? Just so I can tie up the forum username with the Zwift!
So do we have teams/start delays yet?
12 or 13 for tonight so far. Any more takers? Category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1232591
I'll post teams, tags etc lunchtime ish.
Start delays are STW 3.5 and More STW 15 minutes, which I think means STW will be chasing down MoreSTW in the second half of (their) race.
And welcome to the forum @mbs!
Those delays are getting lengthy these days, it's a bit of a downer. Prepare for 15, expect 3 based on last week !.
Zwift already has a ghost power up, it would be great if these events were shorter launch delays or similar like the individual TTT, (with the travellator) but teams near you were in ghost mode, so they can't affect your team and you only see them as they approach from the rear or you approach someone else, then they fade out until there is a distance between you.
Unless you like the chaos of course.
Those delays are getting lengthy these days
There's no predictable pattern, so I've given up blaming myself and stopped trying to game it. Tonight, for example, delays are long in all categories. I've considered entering a different (aka "wrong") pen if it would make a difference but the quieter pens (e.g. espresso tonight) just get bigger gaps between the teams.
I suppose it's just popular. It is frustrating though. At least tonight the fluke that it'll mean STW coming back round and chasing to lap MoreSTW adds something.
I'd like to join in this evening but not sure if I can make it yet.
I suppose it’s just popular. It is frustrating though. At least tonight the fluke that it’ll mean STW coming back round and chasing to lap MoreSTW adds something
Do we get arsey with each other if the other team doesn't back off or work as a team of 16?!
Just sign up @drew. If you don't make it, we can't say we weren't warned.
Ok,just signed up.
OK, teams for tonight:
STW, +3.5 minutes so 19:43:30, TTT (STW) discord channel
@phil56
@paino
@w00dster (change your tag!)
@savoyad
@haloric
@mbs (change your tag!)
@robbo1234biking (change your tag!)
MoreSTW, +15 minutes so 19:55:00, TTT (MoreSTW) discord channel
@scaredypants
@yanboss (change your tag!)
@jamesoz
@trolo1234 (your tag is correct already!)
@drew
@ivandobski
@mrhoppy (change your tag!)
A reminder of the important info.
- tag your zwiftpower name (no change needed in zwift itself) with your team name in brackets. You can do this on a permanent basis at zwiftpower.com --> zwift profile --> settings --> rider name, or just for this one race by going here https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=1232591 then Settings (top right), My Name.
- enter the pen ("join" the event) by 19:40. There is no late join even with long start delays.
- ride a road bike and dress as a bumblebee
- the start procedure: when it says GO!, you MUST NOT GO. Stop pedalling before then, so you are at zero watts at "go". Then wait until our start delay has elapsed. Do not pedal at all until the delay is finished. Then you can GO! This is possible using a watch alone, but better done through comms...
- comms are on discord. invite here https://discord.gg/R3qrgYjT, we use the voice channels with names as above. push to talk is better, less panting for everyone else to listen to.
I think that's all. Any questions say so.
Otherwise, see you all in the pen!
@robbo1234biking no I am gonna be sensible & rest up, want to be on form again for next Tues definitely now! Good luck all though! Anyone live-streaming it?! 😃
I'm very much a maybe for this evening so if there are more potential riders for Team MoreSTW then I'm happy to step aside rather than sit on a slot.
Don't worry @ivandobski, there's no slot blocking going on. In fact there's still room for more. If/when your maybe becomes a definite (either way!) tell me though?
Will do!
Anyone live-streaming it?! 😃
@zilog6128 I think you can just enter, join the event and fan view sitting in the start pen - which (if it works) would also allow you to move between the two teams. No turbo required. But if you have to sit on one in front of whatever screen you run zwift on...don't pedal!
Right, I'm a no for this evening I'm afraid - good luck all.
@savoyad cool might give that a go - so if you see me in the pen I'm just lurking 😃
It’s ok zilog we aren’t used to you starting the same time as everyone else anyway 😉
Haha pretty sure I’ve only done that once 😀
Oh dear, a beasting ahead I fear.
I shall endeavour to be a useful engine, but more likely an old Mark 2 passenger coach, towed to its final resting place.
Sorry everyone, I'm going to have to duck out as I'll miss the start time, even for the morestw slot.
Will try to get my avatar into the pen and join zilog watching you towards the end
Hope this gets to someone in time for any team switching that might be needed
☹️
WiFi cut out at the bottom of the hill 1st time just as we made the pass. Hooded it up and rebooted the connection got everything back only 12s down but everytime I got within 4s someone would Welly it and pull the gap out again. After 15 minutes of solo TTing at 300W I decided to call it a day.
Looks like a good ride from STW, loads of overtakes though so no doubt hard work!!
Cheers guys. Not sure what was going on with comms but I could only hear savoyad and no one else. We got a bit split on one of the overtakes but I felt pretty strong tonight so happy with the progress. Enjoyed it - hope you all did as well! Lots of dropouts from paino and woodster but you always seemed to drop back into the group!
My passenger coach is fully parked up, in a siding.
Kept getting dropped just over the brow of the big hill as the lead takes off, even a slight gap is too much to make up - several hard minutes of playing catch !.
Lost comms on the third lap, think that was my own fault as it looks like my headphones were on discord mute until i noticed. Apologies if my name was being used in vain. Was calling a bit to slow down but not sure i was getting heard :^(
People were teleporting around quite a lot, I was dropped on my own ready to die, and then suddenly Phil was there from nowhere. We passed at least 6 teams I think.
Thanks for the ride, enjoyed it.
We were seeing avatar dropouts as well. Didn't seem to loose draft though.
WiFi cut out at the bottom of the hill 1st time just as we made the pass. Hooded it up and rebooted the connection got everything back only 12s down but everytime I got within 4s someone would Welly it and pull the gap out again. After 15 minutes of solo TTing at 300W I decided to call it a day
If you were More STW, I heard you say your WiFi dropped and that's the last I heard or saw you.
Mind you my TV decided to go into setup mode so I was squinting at the laptop on the floor trying to hang on.
I don’t know about anybody else but I’m cream crackered. Sorry we left you behind Chris, I’m not sure if anybody else could hear you. Once we we were down to four I focused on just trying to finish so apologise for not being able to do any of the work on the front.
Can confirm I was there all the time! Woodster had an invisibility cloak on for a while, lost Phil for a while too. Was thinking, does the draft effect still work even if we are ghosts?
Sorry for the drop @mrhoppy. Saw you drop back so I dropped of the back to offer a tow back on, then you disappeared again. Don't think I saw you again in the ride list after that.
Thought we settled into quite good group after we finally separated from that passing team. My coms are useless for road captaining after the start. Don't know how Phil does it all so effortlessly!
I figured my discord was playing up if I didn't have a connection.
At the top of the hill I was 12s down, by the bottom I was back to 4s back by the bridge at the bottom. By the Italian Villas you were back up to 10s, had you down to 4s by the end of the sprint bridge then it went back up on the climb as I was breathing out of my arse by that point. At the end of the esses I decided to sack it off as I just didn't have the legs to close up having averaged 110% FTP for 15 minutes.
40s PB on up and down the hill including stopping to reset my WiFi connection.
At the top of the hill I was 12s down, by the bottom I was back to 4s back by the bridge at the bottom. By the Italian Villas you were back up to 10s, had you down to 4s by the end of the sprint bridge then it went back up on the climb as I was breathing out of my arse by that point. At the end of the esses I decided to sack it off as I just didn’t have the legs to close up having averaged 110% FTP for 15 minutes.
40s PB on up and down the hill including stopping to reset my WiFi connection
Ouch! Nice work. I think I was a bit of a lead weight.
Struggled with breathing/coughing, Hr didn't get above 154. If the team didn't need 4 I'd prob have quit out
Paino, I think the draft was still ok. Where I went invisible to you guys I was sat on the front with you behind me. We were both taking it relatively easy, 3.1w/kg for me and 2.7 for you.
I was always in my list of riders and visible on screen, very strange.
So could anyone on the STW team actually hear me/each other apart from Savoyad? That is my highest average Watts for a TTT I think so don't think it was a bad ride but without the comms couldn't really tell!
Looks like the World Championships may go ahead @savoyad - it is marked on their website as so. The banner shows height and weight verification as well. Worried I might have over egged my height by 1 or 2cm lol and my avatar should in fact be a dwarf!
I couldn't hear you Robbo, I could before the race, but not during it.
What was your power for the TT? Mine was fairly low, 242 watts. Does it take the average power from when we push off or from the event start?
Think I will go back to using my phone and a standard set of Apple Headphones in that case.
Average power was 277w, NP was 285w. It is from when you start pedalling until the end of you are going by zwift power, The wait at the start shouldn't affect it.
There were quite a lot of technical issues last night. w00dster and @paino were invisible for long periods (sorry I kept checking on you!). I'm sure from your answers, and from the way you kept reappearing in the group, that the draft was working fine from your end. I could hear everyone @robbo1234biking. I have a recording (video + comms audio) if you want to see what you missed.
My highlight was @phil56 "persuading" us to do that mad last pass at 6w/kg into the finish. ("only 800km to go guys!")
@w00dster (On my data at least...) the ave power is suppressed by minutes 20-25, so lap 2 after the climb when we eased up and took a while to regroup. This happens sometimes.
Our first lap was really amazing. That was a tough course to stay together, and we were really really tight, perfect almost. It was always going to get harder. We improved though: climb 3 (@haloric pacing us up) went better than climb 2 (where I am sure the real issue was the traffic, not the split; once there's traffic between us at a moment of pressure it always goes wrong).
I'll sort entries for the worlds...
I have a recording (video + comms audio) if you want to see what you missed.
Might be interesting to see/hear! Hope I was doing what was being shouted at me then as I couldn't hear a thing! I just tried not to be on the back once the comms had gone. I think I seemed to be in sync most of the time. The difficult bit was when we split after the second climb and got tangled up with the other group.
I think It was Ant who made me laugh out loud at the wrong time, coming to the top of the hill, Phil shouted “Woodster where’ve you been?!!” The reply from Ant “Sir, he’s been hiding in the bushes sir!”
(You had to be there....but it made me chuckle and gag on my drink!)
You had been gone for so long, I think you skipped a lap. !
I was leading up the final climb because I was so petrified of being dropped on the other side like on the 2nd lap, fear adds watts !,
FB is full of stories of riders and even teams disappearing and re-appearing.
Seems like Zwift had a mare, had lots more problems recently since they have 'upgraded' their servers.
Looks like STW got the much coveted 214th/256 position in Frappe, and MoreSTW 115th/224 Latte.
The team just 3 secs above us (Herd of Cheetahs) has a team mate from ZRL (Thomas Kroeber) who is streets ahead of me, 8 riders with 6 B's, so we must have been pushing hard to be that close - thanks Phil.