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....as we have a no helmet, no ride policy"
First and foremost I DO NOT want another helmet debate as it's getting dull.
That out the way; I met up with a new group of road riders today in my normal gear which doesn't include a lid (on road). I was told they'd let me of this time but couldn't ride with them again without a helmet.
I'm just trying to get my head around how my personal choice of PPE effects anyone else in the group in any way. I wouldn't comment on someone elses choice of protective kit, it's down to the individual with what they feel keeps them safe IMO. Can someone shed some light on this?
Perhaps they just dont want to be associated with the kind of nob head that doesnt wear a lid?
its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.
simple 😀
they have just as much right to make that choice as you do yours.
I DO NOT want another helmet debate as it's getting dull.
Then dont start another one
You didn't have baggies on did you?
is it a club? do they have liability insurance? does it only cover them if riders have helmets?
if you don't like it/their attitude ride with someone else?
I feel more comfortable ridign with people with helmets, tbh, if only for the selfish reason of not wanting to hold their brains in until the ambulance arrives if they come off.
its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.
This.
If they decide that to be in 'their club' you have to wear a helmet then so be it, their choice. I suppose you could question their reasoning for this?
You barely even notice a helmet when it's on, just wear the damn thing!
Nice guys...
Because if you split your head open, they don't want the hassle of dragging you to the hospital.
"I feel more comfortable ridign with people with helmets, tbh, if only for the selfish reason of not wanting to hold their brains in until the ambulance arrives if they come off."
Thats a stupid comment.
As is this
"Because if you split your head open, they don't want the hassle of dragging you to the hospital."
Ssssshhhhh. He's helping purify the gene pool
I'm amazed! Roadies! Insisting on helmet wearing? Whatevernext?
did you ask [i]them[/i]?
Becuase if you sustained an avoidable head injury (however statistically small the chances may be) they would be the ones who had to deal with the consequences
Or maybe it's just their rules and rules is rules
Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle
Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle
Good point, are you ginger? 😕
Bit more surprised that they let you get away with it 'that time'.
Surely if they have a 'no helmet, no ride' policy, that includes the first ride, otherwise what is the point.
Dave
Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.
I've seen this happen on the cwmcarn uplift. the driver of the van lets guys use the uplift even though he has no helmet
Strangely for a pre-dawn start there was no compulsory lights rule. Free ride so nonliabilty issues I can think of. Looking for constructive comments rather than abuse for my personal choice of PPE thanks.
Nice guys...
You should see the flameing I got for suggesting a £1800 bike should be built to last longer than 15 rides.
But yea, most clubs have that policy. Either for insurance reasons or I'd imagine because they want to encourage the youngsters to wear them, which would be hindered by you trying to look all cool and edgy not wearing a helmet. Stick to the man!
Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.
They're roadies! What were you expecting 😀
[i]Looking for constructive comments rather than abuse for my personal choice of PPE thanks. [/i]
you do know this is STW ? 😕
Maybe they were just a bunch self righteous know it all pricks.
Perhaps. Probably better than being an unself-confident know nothing at all vegetable after you've fallen off and banged your head.
"Becuase if you sustained an avoidable head injury (however statistically small the chances may be) they would be the ones who had to deal with the consequences"
If you have an accident where a helemet reduces injury, then its more than likely that some other part of the body will be injured too. Or do they turn people away who are not wearing full body armour?
Or maybe they took offence to your hairstyle
I do end up with a helluva bouffant to be fair. You may have a point.
Will you go again and wear a helmet next time?
Does the OP wear of those stupid Rapha roadie caps like wot erasure wore in the 80's (whilst watching Torchwood)?
easy their Phil I think you [ and me] would struggle on the haircut debate.
Constructive - well it is their club and it has rules [possibly due to liability insurance]. I suggest you find another one that agrees with your choice.
Probably better than being an unself-confident know nothing at all vegetable after you've fallen off and banged your head.
Sir you are on form today!
This sums it up most eloquently:
its your choice not to wear a lid, but their choice not to ride with you if you're not wearing one.
Get over it.
Pro riders are forced to wear helmets now too.
Sounds like another helmet debate to me... tbh, if you dont want to wear a lid, dont join the club, personal choice and all that....
As already said.
their club, their rules ( which aren't unreasonable imho )
If you have an accident where a helemet reduces injury, then its more than likely that some other part of the body will be injured too. Or do they turn people away who are not wearing full body armour?
Probably not, because form a first aid point of view it's a lot easier to deal with a broken arm than it is a broken arm and a fractured skull? An the other hand, it's a whole lot less effort if the person is dead as well.
sorry junky, i have a ginger niece now.... still have to shower a couple of times and use alcohol gel after handling her, but i'm getting more comfortable around orange people 😉
I prefer riding with people who wear helmets, because they go faster and take much bigger risks, which is much more fun 😈
with you compassion and sensitivity you did choose the correct career choice. I salute your dedication to Equality and diversity.
I ride mtb night rides which are organised by a local shop, you have to sign waiver forms and must wear a helmet to ride with them.
I dont see the problem personally, if you dont want to wear a helmet then dont and ride with someone else.
From a First Aid point of view both are treated exactly the same way ie you stop and ring 999....
and there are plenty of other ways to die than hitting your head.
i'm all about equal opportunities, once made friends with a short person and everything! for bonus points the short person is from turkey.
anyway, back to helmets... as i said above, you makes your choices, they makes their choices. its all gravy baby x
it's down to the individual with what they feel keeps them safe IMO
If you're riding as an individual, yes. In a group, the group decides.
Wait until they start insisting on mudguards...
[i]and there are plenty of other ways to die than hitting your head.[/i]
*removes head from drum of running cement mixer*
but we all try and minimise the risks, eh?
*replaces head*
I would be interested to know their reason. If its due to liability insurance etc, then fair enough, cant argue. However if its based on a whim that riding a bike with a helmet on makes you safer then I think I would question if I would want to ride with them.
Just out of interest have they all passed their cycling profficiency test? 🙂
its all gravy baby x
You win this week's ****iest Phrase award.........truly appalling.
Did you tell them that helmets are dangerous and can lead to your head being ripped off? And that they've never saved anyone's life?
I'm sure that's what I read on here.