[Closed] Would you buy a (new) fatbike for ~£1k?

There's a useful link and template [url= http://fatbikerepublic.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/fatbike-fenders.html ]here[/url] for DIY fatbike fenders. Plan on trying to fashion something between that and the [url= ]Mucky Nutz fat face XL[/url] for the little fatty 😛

^ that Fat Face XL I'd what I have, with the same brand under the saddle rear version.

Is the now £703 On One Fat Bike a better bike than the Dune?
By the time I,ve factored in the 130 mile round trip for the Dune and possibly new tyres, there's not a lot in it price wise.
Is the carbon fork worth upgrading to on the On One?

6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

O-O has the better cranks, brakes and gears, Dune has the cheaper price. Carbon fork is nice, but I never rode the steel one.

Thing is, I hinted at selling my fatty a few pages back and got an inbox full of offers, so If I wanted to upgrade it to something else I could without losing more than about £200. Ok you could sell the dune for probably a £200 loss too, but you'd have a better bike in the meantime on the O-O (and if you do replace the cranks, brakes, etc on the dune the cost is probably much closer).

NW - I think they'd robbed this BB to repair another bike a customer had brought back...

mamadirt - Member
There's a useful link and template here for DIY fatbike fenders. Plan on trying to fashion something between that and the Mucky Nutz fat face XL for the little fatty

Or you can use your old muc off bottles ...like me...
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liking the old muc off bottles, I used a cheap ring binder folder from morrisons

Do you guys find those little guards useful on the fatbike? I tried one but the bigger tyre just seems to throw too much crap past it. I like them on a normal bike so I was a bit surprised...

I haven't tested mine out yet but it's massive compared to the one on my other bike, so I'm hoping it works.

@calibrebikes any date as yet for the Larger sizes of the Dune, my mate is chomping at the bit for one.

Northwind - Member
Do you guys find those little guards useful on the fatbike? I tried one but the bigger tyre just seems to throw too much crap past it. I like them on a normal bike so I was a bit surprised...

Well I would be lying if I said it stops all the crap being flung around....but it does cut it down by say 50%.
My main reason for having them was doggy doo.....3 X's last summer I had it on me arms , cheek....so I needed to put a end to it...lol

But I don't like big mud guards...and if I brought some I would only cut it down ....so the muc off ones are a good trade off......and free...ha ha ha

Do you guys find those little guards useful on the fatbike? I tried one but the bigger tyre just seems to throw too much crap past it. I like them on a normal bike so I was a bit surprised...

get a mudhugger 29r rear

Rocketdog recommended one to me, best thing my fatbike has ever had fitted!

Epicyclo has full guards. Not sure where he got them from.
I did look at generic motor trials bike guards on ebay. Should be able to bodge them on.

trial bike mudguards for full coverage - from sammy millers

heat em up and bend em if needed

just got a 29er rear mud hugger to fit to my fat bike (waiting on them to do an actual fat guard)

I bought this one on a whim from SLAM69 cycles

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It's an old DH one. A bit flappy so with the old 4inch tyre it was like riding with a woodpecker on board. Now I have a nate on there, it;s a lot better. Looks stupid but sort of works. The rear crud catcher did nothing!

I've got a MuckyNutz fat front to fit and I might use one of my old ones to fashion a rear. I know MudHugger are going to make 'proper' fat guards front and rear so I'm waiting for those. MH on all my non fat bikes and I reckon they are the best out there.

Ok more questions!
It's between an On One and a Dune.
I'm assuming the OO takes a conventional BB with a fat crank. The Dune is a square taper, how difficult will it be the find a replacement BB in 2 years time? Is square the default BB for fatties?
Same question for wheels . What hypothetically will Superstar be offering in 2 years time , qr or bolt through?
Are the Dune and the OO the same hub width?
Is the fork on the OO a 4 LB job like they used to put on the Inbred?

Dune is 150/190 hub, OO is 135/170 both are screw in (old fashioned) BB. There are a lot more HT2 type BBs than ST ones available
OO steel fork is no light weight but it's not bad & works well

Dune will take a bluto fork without changing the wheels or hubs, where as the OO will need wheels.

OO also has a straight steerer I think?, Dune is tapered

Raceface do a crankset and BB for £100ish that will fit either bikes

Dune will take a bluto fork without changing the wheels or hubs, where as the OO will need wheels.

OO also has a straight steerer I think?, Dune is tapered

zippykona - Member
Ok more questions!
It's between an On One and a Dune.

I hope you're better with sticking to a budget than me. That is where I was at, debating those 2 but for perhaps different reasons and then I bought a Surly 😆

@cheekyget Muc-Off guards look good! Just bought a fluoro orange plastic folder from the pound shop for mine 😳 Watch this space . . .

Just put my 8 week old XL Trek Farley 5 up for sale on the classifieds if there are any fatbike curious reading this thread...

mamadirt - Member
@cheekyget Muc-Off guards look good! Just bought a fluoro orange plastic folder from the pound shop for mine Watch this space . . .

Did you get a fatty in the end?

Yep, got a Baby Fatty on order- build is scheduled for next Thursday though 🙁 . . . oh the impatience.

Cool. Congrats and enjoy mamadirt

mamadirt - Member
Yep, got a Baby Fatty on order- build is scheduled for next Thursday though . . . oh the impatience.

i give it 2 months before something is sawn off it 😉

That long RD? 😆

zippykona - Member

I'm assuming the OO takes a conventional BB with a fat crank. The Dune is a square taper, how difficult will it be the find a replacement BB in 2 years time? Is square the default BB for fatties?

Easy to find square taper fatties but tbh they're pretty cheap cranks so when the BB goes it might make more sense just to upgrade.

The on one is SRAM so doesn't work with standard ht2-style BBs. Unfortunately SRAM BBs are awful but you can buy compatible alternatives, Hope and a few others.

I bought a 2nd hand Caribou - really pleased with it, but having developed ungrade-itis I've run into a problem!

Picked up some 2nd hand OO carbon forks of here, but having fitted them there isn't enough clearance between the front brake adapter (IS to post mount) and the rotor. The wheel is centered in the forks exactly as in the Caribou forks, but the IS brake mounts are much closer in towards the brake disc on the OO forks.

There is clearly something different, but I've never come across anything like this before on any bike - any thoughts from the fatty experts?

Probably one of them is rear disc spaced and the other is front disc spaced. I'm guessing it's the fatty forks that are rear spaced

Probably one of them is rear disc spaced and the other is front disc spaced. I'm guessing it's the fatty forks that are rear spaced

Thanks Guys - I guessed it must be something like that.

Northwind, when you got your Aeffect cranks I assume you got the 100/190 option but still had to space of out for good chain line? Think my drive trains dying fast today had massive chain suck issues and all sorts of grinding noises and rear mech where it rotates sound the hanger bolt has about 1mm movement in it.......alas I note that stock is rare as hens teeth until mid January 😯

Or Maybe I should be asking Alex, think it was actually you that's fitted yours?

Yeah, Alex has his up and running. Delay on mine because absoluteblack turned out to be out of stock of chainrings, despite saying they had stock 🙁 But should have em in a couple of weeks.

I couldn't find the 170 spacing version in stock anywhere outside of the US but a few euro shops have the 190.

I'm now part of the gang! Just got this and it's got all the upgrades I wanted to do already.
Surprised how well it rolls on tarmac. Shall have my first outing on Monday.
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Nice colour coordination going on there! Thanks for the reply Northwind. I'll wait for UK stock to appear......

Looks good ZippyKona - won't be white for long...

@suggsey - I had to push the cranks outboard with two spacers on the drive side. Even then the chainline wasn't great, so we flipped the ring round (and have done so with the Oval I fitted today) to give it a few more mm. Happy with the chainline now and no issues in use at all.

I've had to tap out the thread for the rear axle. Have a replacement on order as well. Hope I don't have to take the rear wheel out too many times. Otherwise it's down the tool shop to find a bolt with the same thread!

Cheers for the reply, so was it the 190 version you fitted, just wondering if the 170 Q factor versions caused the chain line issues (I know it shouldn't make a difference because of the mounting point of the ring on the crank arm) but if you've used the 100/170 versions wondered if that was the issue.
As for the rear axle I must agree caution in installation and tightening etc is done with caution. 😆

I just went back and checked. Mine with the 100/170s. Don;t think 190s were in stock and I was impatient 😉 It's not really any issue, easy to fix and works fine in use. Just needed a bit of lateral thinking. Seem to be so many standards flying about for fat bikes, hard to know which one to follow! Back in the day of just deciding 68 or 73mm bottom brackets things were much easier!

Another new Dune owner here 🙂

It's very interesting reading about all the various upgrades as I've done a few basics to mine and looking to do a few more soon. So far I've fitted a set of hydraulic brakes I had laying around and fitted a spare set of pedals I had. Yesterday I fitted a pair of On One Floaters as the Schwalbes really are pretty useless in the mud although it kept my riding friends entertained watching me slip sliding away.

The next thing I want to change are the gears and I could do with a few pointers. Is there a complete 2x10 set up that will bolt straight on, ie both derailleurs, changers and cassette. Is it possible to just change the front chain rings and use the original crank arms or is it better to go the whole hog and change the lot. I had considered 1x10 but it's a bit hilly here on the outskirts of Sheffield/Derbyshire and I thought I might miss the lower gears.

It's funny how the Dune has now become my go to bike, my Canyon hasn't had a look in recently.

We all know what a Dune looks like but you can never have too many pics and here it is on Bridlington beach on NYD

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Not sure how 2x10 would work as the current setup has all that bracketry for 8 speed. So you'd need some kind of e-type mech. Pretty sure 10 speed chainrings wont' be compatible with those cranks so hard to see how a mix and match would work. Can't use std cranks as you need 100mm BB shell... so I think that's a no unless I misunderstood what you were asking!

For this still looking for mudguard options, i gave up with the flappy DH one and switched to a Fat Face from MuckyNutz and a ghetto rear made up of an old MN front and rear.

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Surprisingly effective. Absolutely filthy in the Forest today. Reverb stayed mostly dry (that's my key requirement for the rear) and reduced splatter from the front even tho there's some clearance between tyre and guard. I might add a crud-guard as well but cables will get in the way.

Cranks and chainrings are unfussy about compatibility, you'll probably be fine to do 2x10 with the existing rings. The cranks themselves are 100% compatible if you wanted to change rings but the standard rings should do the job (I reckon you could find the exact same rings OE on bikes with 9 and 10 speed if you look around).

Mech, I don't know about. Though, again the original one will most likely do the job with a little tweaking- it's doing the same job regardless of the number of rear gears.

Thing about 1x10 is range really and to me, the fatbike doesn't really need high gears as much- keeping it going at high speed is redonkulously hard work, rolling resistance seems pretty much exponential. So if you gear down, ie stick a 30T on the front and an expanded 42T cassette on the back, you've got bottom gearing almost identical to a traditional 22 front, 32 rear 2x setup. (I'm going down to 28T on mine but you can't do that on the stock cranks)

The DORC speaks 🙂 Right then I was talking nonsense. I thought the BCD was different but clearly not.

I run mine 32 Oval front, 40T on the back. So far so good, see how it goes longer term..

Thanks fellas 8)

A heated up Mudhugger seems to be the way to go for the rear is a heated up front one any good?
I've got one on my normal bike and it's brilliant.

@johnnygb - maybe I'll see you on Brid beach on mine sometime.

First ride out on mine yesterday, mudguards arrived today and floaters are on order. Thanks to the recommendations on here.