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just asking cause been havin this conversation with my bro mainly cause he's got rapid robs on his bike and we both come to the conclusion that these tyres are rubbish on anything other than tarmac any other tyres that people think are cr*p??


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 5:31 pm
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Maxxis cross mark for me. Had 7 punctures in a week and soon binned them off for something better. Didn't grip well, weren't particularly fast rolling, a poor recommendation from my lbs


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 5:36 pm
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lol

stupid low pressures or thorn punctures?


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 5:45 pm
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From ye old days of yore: Tioga Psycho - never has a tire been so well named. Lethal in the wet. Lethal in the dry. You could have sued that tyre for corporate manslaughter ๐Ÿ˜‰

Kenda Karma. Nothing karmic about those tyres unless you included contemplating life from a hedge.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 5:58 pm
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The conti race king that came on my Zesty. Lasted 1 ride before getting punted.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:19 pm
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My punctures were all thorn punctures. Strange thing is I've never had another thorn puncture with any other tyres?!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:23 pm
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And I have to say the kenda nevegal tyres that came with my bike were also pretty awful. I think you have to take oem tyres with a pinch of salt though as they are often a cheaper, plasticy company different to the ones you buy off the shelf?!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:25 pm
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+1 oem kenda nevegal. put me off kendas ever since.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:31 pm
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Continental MK's are the worst tyre I've tried/had so far. I really didn't get on with them. Nevegals on the other hand, well, I think they're great and been running them for 4 yrs now

Just my 2p


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:35 pm
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Crossmarks here too garbage tire

First time ive ever cut a sidewall twice on a ride,not even fly lights just your standard 40 quid cross mark on its first ride a ride ive done many times on other tires no issue

Didnt like the grip availible either - went back to small block 8s as summer tire of default


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:39 pm
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[i]Didn't grip well, weren't particularly fast rolling[/i]

Yep I'd have to agree with this about the Crossmark...much prefer the Aspen or Ardent

[i]Kenda Karma. Nothing karmic about those tyres unless you included contemplating life from a hedge.[/i]

Yep...okay on the back but lethal on the front


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:41 pm
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Are Rapid Robs that bad for their intended role as a balls-out XC race tyre? I ride WTB nanoraptors a lot. Another Xc race tyre and great on hard packed forest and open country trails, and predictable breakaway on looser stuff. If I rode them on anything wet or rocky or wet and rocky, I'd find them crap.

I fell horribly out of love with Cotinental verticals on the trail round Ullswater on a wet day. Felt like they had a coating of that slimy green stuff around rock pools.

Won a set of Geax something or others as a spot prize at some event or other. They were shite. 2.3" but came up about 1.9. Thick black cheap feeling rubber. Draggy without being grippy. Eurhh


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:42 pm
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Anything kenda!
Ive had the small block 8, Nevegal and blue grove on various bikes when I bought them. All have been awful with little to no grip. Im not even sure how they can make a 2.35 not grip ?! They have been sat in the garage somewhere to rot.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:47 pm
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Can I just add that I love crossmarks, find them fast and surprisingly grippy.

Some versions do seem to cut up easily tho, but same for any light tyre.

In terms of worst: tioga factory DH. Dear god.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 6:50 pm
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There is a tyre, which makes many claims. It claims to be fast, hardy against punctures and grippy. I'm not sure which universe these claims are based in, it's certainly not the one we inhabit.

Let me start with a picture.
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It's sold as a cyclocross tyre. I'm not sure which cyclocross riding they're talking about, maybe an indoor kind. It certainly doesn't do the things you'd expect a cyclocross tyre to do, like grip stuff. I'm happy to accept this was a tyre aimed at Californian residents, but it's not that good in the dry. In good old Blighty, it's like smearing butter on your wheels and heading down an iced over canal.

I could forgive poor grip. I am after all, an awesome rider and can accomodate such issues. What I can't forgive, it's it's complete lack of puncture protection. These tyres attract thorns and glass. I've never had so many punctures on one set of tyres in all my life. Every ride, I can almost guarantee it. And we're not talking gnarly or anything, these are my commuting tyres. They could run faster than anything else in the world and be grippy beyond belief but that's all pointless if you spend the time you gain, fixing holes in them.

Destroy!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:01 pm
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The proper Kenda Nev & Blue Groove tyres are excellent. They drag, for sure but the proper DTC & Stickee versions are a lot better than the wire beaded POS that are OEM.

Tioga Psycho, now that was a bad tyre, closely followed by Conti's 2.2 Mountain King for the 29er. Verging on dangerous unless you ride at no more than 5 degrees from upright.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:03 pm
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These came fitted on my 456SS. Anyone else used them? No corner grip on road and even less off road - although they are a bit better now the trails have dried a bit. They roll fast and i'll be keeping them as they're too new to bin (I tend to keep tyres 'til they're bald or ripped).


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:05 pm
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I've always been of the opinion that tyres is tyres and people who blame them for their own short comings need to mtfu.........right up until I rode conti mountainkings (the original non black chilli ones).I'm still convinced they have a personal vendetta against me and won't rest until I am dead.
29er crossmarks are AWESOME btw!!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:09 pm
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Lies rorschach lies i tell you ๐Ÿ™‚

Agree on that michelin tire another horrible tire - so similar to spesh fash traks ( awesome tire) yet performace couldnt be any different if it tried !


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:13 pm
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Panaracer Fire XC

Awful


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:14 pm
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It's a neat trick making rubber that behaves like plastic.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:21 pm
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I had a set of wtb velocoraptors once. They lasted ages, which was the only good thing about them, although the reason for this was that they were such a hard compound that they were lethal in all but the driest conditions, the front trised to kill me by washing out on numerous occasions, took years to get my confidince back...


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:25 pm
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Maxxis advantage
Conti vertical
Both horrendous and cheap


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:42 pm
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[i]I had a set of wtb velocoraptors once.[/i]

got a pair in the shed if you're feeling nostalgic ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:44 pm
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Maxxis Advantage are great on rock.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:45 pm
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Fraid Im going to have to say crossmarks too, continous centre line has no grip when climbing out of the saddle. Also nominate nobby nics for being too fragile.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 7:49 pm
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Tioga Factory XCs- a dazzling combination of heavy, draggy and grip-free. Just properly boggin.

Can't say as I've used any other bad, aftermarket tyres in the modern era though, even the worst ones still do the job.

Oh aye- comments on OEM models up the page are spot on, frinstance with the Nevegals the only thing they have in common between OEM and aftermarket is that they look the same. One is a good allrounder, the other is a chocolate fireplace.


 
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In order of epic cackness...

First, by a mile, tioga factory DH. By. A. Mile. Really can't stress that enough! Heavy, rolled like a soft compound tyre despite having the grip of a super hard (scratch that, tioga managed to create friction free rubber)! Nightmare to fit, massive size compared to what was stated on the side (2.1 was nearer 2.4, 2.3 was about 2.5/2.6) yet every bike in the land seemed to have a pair!!!! /rage.

A long way back in second, I never really got on with nevegals, dunno why, just felt odd.

Had a Michelin DH 24 once, mega money, average performance really...

Other than that, all good, as long as I'm using the tyre for its intended purpose!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:12 pm
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Kenda Nevegals for me.

Became known as the "Kenda Surprise"


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:15 pm
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^^ Yep Tioga Factory XC & DH both awful. Draggy and yet no grip. I remember once going to do a stoppie on some tarmac and I doing a front skid instead (not a euphemism)


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:17 pm
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I could never get Michelin Wildgrippers to work for me, other people swore by them, I found they would just let go without warning.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:20 pm
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You didnt like the dh24 !!! As far as dh tires went for intermediate to dry they were the tires to have . Absolutely loved the on the scottish rocks

16s for the wet

Did baulk at he 50 quid each price tag though. Worth it for he puncture proofness though for mega grip at low psi when racing

I kept rolling maxxis high rollers off the rim and stretching the bead


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:22 pm
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Continental Vertical Pro.

Should be named Continental Horizontal-Without-Warning


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:23 pm
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For me it has to be pre black chilli Conti Verts on wet rock or off camber trails simply lethal!


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:25 pm
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I guess it wasn't a bad tyre, just expected a lot more I suppose. That and I've had many better tyres since, so that's prob what's made me think they weren't so hot. Apologies to Michelin.... ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:26 pm
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Maxxis Ignitor. Just not enough grip in corners. I guess I am not a

the most discerning professional racers
as their website says. Give me a Racing Ralph anyday.

I also found my Nevegals quite good as well but UST if that made much difference.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:29 pm
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High Rollers:
Grip if leant over at approx 80 degrees - fine.
Grip if totally upright - sketchy.
Grip if anywhere between upright and 80 degrees (you know, the bit you normally use) - none existant.

Here's an experiment for you to try:
Get a couple of novice MTB'ers on similar bikes.
Fit one bike with High Rollers and one with a decent tyre - say Cinders or Ignitors.
Place both at the bottom of Colden Clough and watch them ride up it.
No matter how often you ask them to swap bikes, the one constantly spinning the rear tyre will be the one on the High Roller.

I genuinely, genuinely hate them.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:31 pm
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IRC Mythos XC II


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:35 pm
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Which version of high roller?

XC one - they're cack, except in the dry.

DH one - what you doing riding up stuff?


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:36 pm
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Get a couple of novice MTB'ers on similar bikes.

Perhaps you're right. I'm not a novice though and I love my High Rollers.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:37 pm
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For me worst has been a set of WTB MotoRaptor in OE guise on a Marin i bought, they seemed to be made of teflon compound, talk about sketchy.

Had Nevegals for a bit gripped well but draggy for me.


 
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IRC Notos XC. Hilariously sketchy ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:41 pm
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IRC Mythos XC II

Actually they were rubbish too,

High Rollers:

I didn't like the 'lurch' between the central tread and shoulder knobs either, run minions now.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:41 pm
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Conti MK are frightening tyres. I papped myself many a time and then binned them off.

Weirdly, I really like Michelin 29er Dry tyres. I think they're tough and grippy.


 
Posted : 25/03/2012 8:42 pm
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Which version of high roller?

XC one - they're cack, except in the dry.

DH one - what you doing riding up stuff?

2.35 MaxxPro and 2.35 LUST.

In the North West, you can have them if you want them - E-mail in profile.

Spin, surely the test of a grippy tyre is that a pedal mashing beginner with an action as smooth as a gritty thing shouldn't spin out?

Seriously, I've been riding off road for many years, my Mrs for about 6 - 7 years.
She tried them first and kept complaining about a lack of grip when partially lean over.
I tried them and just couldn't believe how dangerous they felt.
Biggest case of horses for courses I've ever experienced.


 
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