[Closed] Wiggo's attempt on tv?

[quote=Merak ]He's been pretty derogatory about Dowsett, in terms of saying he'll beat that record.

Eh? He'd done tests up to 45 minutes. He knew he was going to smash it. Dowsett knew he was going to smash it. What is he supposed to say when asked? 🙄

He's been pretty derogatory about Dowsett, in terms of saying he'll beat that record. I'd prefer if Dowsett's stood.

It's not derogatory at all

If you have any concept of FTP and CdA you'd know he'd beat it, easily

Utterly ****ing brilliant.

Totally EPIC.

I shed a tear..

Dude !

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That was epic.

Dont think dowsett will bother having another go at that to be fair that bars been raised a fair distance when you look back at previous increments

fantastic that, well done Sir.

I wonder if he will be back to smash the 55.25km barrier he was originally aiming for...

None the less, an astounding effort!

When Dave Brailsford says it's good, it's good.

Awesome! Shame it wasn't raining outside...

[quote=scruff9252 ]I wonder if he will be back to smash the 55.25km barrier he was originally aiming for...
None the less, an astounding effort!

I was really hoping he was going to go more than 55.291 - would be surprised if he comes back for another go, though I reckon it's more likely than Dowsett having another go. I doubt he had an extra 1.6km in the tank (when he accelerated he was still going slower than Wiggo).

Apparently it was the high air pressure that kept him under 55km. I do wonder if he'd give it a go at altitude

Altitude is extremely unlikely. Maybe another go with normally lower air pressure if there's an opportunity whilst he's still on form.

So Hutch reckons it won't last a year - is he planning a go?

So Hutch reckons it won't last a year - is he planning a go?

he didn't even do 50km did he?

Tony Martin wants to have a crack at it, I definitely think he could go further, would have been less sure if pressure conditions had been better for Wiggins record, but as it stands I can see Martin beating it.

I was more impressed to see a fixie being ridden in East London by someone without a beard

Martin will need to learn to ride track first I believe he is pure roadie ? Jens found it hard .

I was more impressed to see a fixie being ridden in East London by someone without a beard

Still had a daft hat on though...

I was more impressed to see a fixie being ridden in East London by someone without a beard

And wearing his own clothes instead of his sister's

managed to get tickets for the Velodrome today - epic effort and an amazing atmosphere inside.
A day I won't forget anytime soon.

hutch attempt was for the Athlete hour (steel bike, drop bars) you should read his book 'Faster', it's a brilliant read

I can see Dowsett or somebody else breaking it, Geraint could 🙂

doesn't stop it being a top ride from Wiggins though, the technical skills were brilliant so anyone cracking that record needs to have the full set - preparation plan, track skill, pacing and raw power

Epic performance.

I've got mixed emotions though. I agree with Hutchinson - that'll be beaten pretty quickly. If I was Cancellara or Martin I would probably be pretty pleased with that outcome. If they get a better day than Wiggins got it will more than make up for their lack of track pedigree. But I can't decide if that's a bad thing or not - in one way it would be a bit of a shame if the record was put out of sight for a generation.

He does have a well practiced air of nonchalance doesn't he, I bet that hurt like absolute hell.

Olympic track and time trial gold, TDF yellow jersey, world TT champ, world road champ? And now this. Makes him one of the greats I think.

[quote=pictonroad ]Olympic track and time trial gold, TDF yellow jersey, world TT champ, world road champ? And now this. Makes him one of the greats I think.

er, he hasn't won the world road champs. Though I'm fairly sure he's unique in having won all of the others.

hutch attempt was for the Athlete hour (steel bike, drop bars) you should read his book 'Faster', it's a brilliant read

started well, tailed off i though, (bit like some hour attempts) think I've had 30 pages to read for a month,

Geraint could

😆 😕

I am not sure anyone about currently can beat that
he is a TT specialist and he also has the track pedigree
No other cyclist has both of these currently IMHO.
Better atmospherics might be a help and I would like to see Spartacus and Martin try but I dont think they will beat it.

^^ totally agree. Every record will be beaten one day but Wiggins has set a high mark. I wouldn't be suprised if Martens and Sparticus even bother to try.

[quote=Junkyard ]Better atmospherics might be a help and I would like to see Spartacus and Martin try but I dont think they will beat it.

Better atmospherics would probably be enough to give Martin a chance - Spartacus isn't quite good enough at that sort of effort any more though I don't think. I reckon 55 would have shelved it for a while, 54.5 they'll still think it's worth a try.

The problem for Martin with that is that whilst it might be doable it would require a lot of specific training - much more than Wiggo needed, as he also has to learn the track - all for something he might not manage. He'll have to spend quite a bit of time on track even just to be able to do proper testing. Though with his programme there's probably space to fit that in if it's something he wants to do enough.

Dont disagree but they are the only ones on the radar who can even attempt it and we would get excited about it
Would anyone care if Dowsett tried again?
Not being rude or disrespectfull but he wont match Wiggo

Wiggins did make a valid point about Dowsett in his post-ride interview.
Dowsett is a fair bit younger than Wiggins (8 years I think) so has time on his side should he want another crack at it.

Would anyone care if Dowsett tried again?

Wiggo is a household name, backed by one of the biggest media machines in the world.
Nobody outside cycling has ever heard of Dowsett, so sadly I think you're right - nobody outside cycling would care.

Fair point point but I meant care as in expect him to beat Brads time

I still reckon that with good conditions, Dowsett could do it. He seemed to have a bit left in the locker when I did his last attempt. I also wouldnt rule out Wiggo having another go to get it to 55km+

Thats just it dowsett may well have another go......knowing he finished well within limits last time.

Going too hard and going pop

Wiggo is the master of judging his own limits and energy expenditure.

He has proven it many times on the track in the tt and on the grand tours.

I think he'll be back for another go, it'll irk him that he didn't go further than Rominger.
The distance set yesterday might just tempt Martin and Cancellara but as already mentioned, they've got a lot of learning to do. Monstering a gear round like Martin does will be a killer on a track, and unfortunately all the rule changes have come about five years too late to catch Cancellara at his best.

I was totally absorbed yesterday with Brads attempt. Spent all day in eager anticipation turned ecstatic when he broke the record.
Truly most awesome.

Whilst Alex broke the record he did do it in Manchester stating LVelo weren't that helpful when it came down to organisation, so it bears truth that with Sir Brad's attempt all roadblocks were easily removed.
I would like Alex to have another crack but honestly can't see him having another go until next year now. Road commitments mean his season will be full, Brads coming to the end of his Road work now and is already in preparation for Track events and training. But this does open up for other riders, not necessarily Road Guys either.. what about Ed Clancy ? Tony Martin's a good call for an attempt but again he'll be Road based for the foreseeable which leaves a Winter attempt.. which with the general Low Pressure systems over Northern Europe at this time could mean a Swiss location/attempt totally viable.
I'm a total fanboy when anything Fabulous Candelabra's concerned, but an Hour attempt ? Sadly I don't think so now. Like Voght he's edging towards his latter years on the Road, and without a Track background, I feel he'll be at a loss when the sheer mental drain towards the end of the attempt will kick in like most of Fab's attempts at hacking off the front he'll back off slightly and that'll be enough for the attempt to sadly fail.

But this a a superb Pure event, long may the protagonists come forward and clip in.

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couple more good graphs,

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That last graph shows what I suggested earlier. It's all very well saying he had more left in the tank, but even when he first accelerated with ~10 minutes to go, he only did one or maybe two laps faster than Wiggo's average - peaking at under 55, when Wiggo had put in loads of >55kph laps. It was only in the sprint in the last minute he managed to go faster than that. I really can't see Dowsett getting anywhere near on that form, however well he paces it.

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Cheers for those Dirtyrider, interesting stuff!

This one is more interesting - confirms my comments above about Dowsett I think

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Those graphs make the first half of Jens' attempt look like the ride out to the cafe!!

I was told today Dowsett is complaining about Wiggins bars not being legal. Any truth?

I read something about one of Dowsett's team complaining, a quote from Dowsett seemed to suggest he didn't care all that much if at all. Pretty sure Pinarello offer the service if you've got a big enough credit card so it's basically the same as the BC bikes/Hansens shoes etc.

Would anyone care if Dowsett tried again?

Wiggo is a household name, backed by one of the biggest media machines in the world.
Nobody outside cycling has ever heard of Dowsett, so sadly I think you're right - nobody outside cycling would care.

(he won't make it IMO)