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It doesn't matter when you bought the frame, it's still an old model. You could have bought it new from a shop yesterday but it's still the same slightly out of date by current standards frame.
The XL tag may put people off too, maybe try listing it using the c-c seat tube size instead? XL implies 5 bar gate, when it probably isn't that big based on the size of the 5 Spot I used to own.
It's still too expensive though. My Transition Bandit frame, in a popular size, with 'on trend' geometry, head tube etc and factory paint job only sold for £400 last month, because it's got 26" wheels, and because at the end of the day no matter what it cost new it's still a second hand frame that's a few years old.
Yep, if you want to sell an armed revolutionary then mekkonolly is your person.
Someone got a link to the one on pink bike for 900 quid
XL's will only sell to XL people and there aren't that many of us about so limited market
It's a 2010 frame regardless of when you bought it
The parts on the bike are a bit low end for the frame a mix of slx and deore doesn't cut it on an almost £1000 SH bike and the bits you've left on the frame and fork are no incentive to buy it
Not worth as much as you think
Didn't you get offered over a grand for it the other day?
Sorry to be harsh but the reason it's not selling is nobody wants it.
Just keep it as a spare.
Chunkmonkey I did but then the chaps car broke so had to pull out.
Iolo you may be right. I'm buying a whtye 629 so will transfer the slx stuff into that and keep this as a spare.
What and you took that blokes reason for the truth!?
But can't accept our reasons for why it isn't selling!
Sods Law mate 🙄
It's an XL and a 26" - that's probably the biggest issue. Second biggest is the 1"1/8 head tube. Third is the time of year. And it has a 21" seat tube so too tall for most riders with a dropper and the reach is shorter than that of my medium Spitfire.
If I were you I'd ride it until it dies or write it off as one of those bad buys...
I can't see the point in keeping it as a spare, you'll never use it again anyway.
Bes thing to do is split it down and sell all the bits individually, although it is pretty time consuming. I did this with my old 26" mtb last year and sold everything without too much bother.
Or you could donate it to this lot http://www.re-cycle.org/ and bank the karma points
Or, just keep it and ride it? What's wrong with it exactly (apart from the fact it's out of date)? Why are you unable to ride it?
David. I'm not getting out and riding as much any more and its a bit of overkill for the 5 mile each way ride to work.
I can't even be bothered to search for a Groundhog Day gif.
FFS man.
Its too expensive, that's the answer to any 'why isn't it selling' question.
I recently sold an ibis mojo hd frame of similar vintage and cane creek shock for £700 on eBay, was hoping for more , but would rather have the cash than the frame sat in my garage
Julians... I only want a couple hundred more for a full bike.
Just out of interest if I was to change the gears and finishing kit to something a bit cheaper would it make much difference to the price you think I can get ?
What's the betting you'll be asking the same question in 6 months time..?
The first time you asked,quite a few reckoned it was well worth your asking price (no-one actually wanted to buy it though...)
Now it's 100% saying it's too expensive.
Do you want to sell or not?
Suburbanreuben.
I do want to sell it and like you can't understand how one minute it's worth my asking price (which was more than I am after now) and then all of a sudden the same forum is telling me it's worth nowt ?
Just out of interest if I was to change the gears and finishing kit to something a bit cheaper would it make much difference to the price you think I can get ?
Probably not worth the hassle of doing it.
EBay with no reserve will give you the truth as to what its worth. Get it up there and move it on.
Yep same as everyone else it's old tec/geometry by today's bikes standards, I almost bought an xl 5spot that was 2012 new geo tapered head tube etc for what you want for your frame around 8 months ago, but I'd just got a good deal on a orange 5 which had a slightly longer TT.
If it was me frame £300 frame fork £450 just to get some cash back.
Good luck buddy.
Have you added up how many hours you've spent trying to get a price no-one is willing to pay? Is your time worth that little to you?!
If someone on STW was willing to pay what you wanted, it would have sold - we've been reading these threads for the best part of the year, it's the best advertised bike of 2014 bar the new Nomad!
Suburbanreuben.I do want to sell it and like you can't understand how one minute it's worth my asking price (which was more than I am after now) and then all of a sudden the same forum is telling me it's worth nowt ?
But the people telling you it was worth £X weren't actually interested in buying it. They were offering their opinion but they were wrong. They, like you, hadn't cottoned on to the fact the market has changed.
Why are you selling? To buy a 29er? 650b?
Exactly. You're not the only one.
The longer you leave it the less it will be worth.
Back then, I nearly offered you £350 for the frame but I was accused of being a scuzzy low-baller. Offer the frame for that now and I doubt you'd get any takers.
I reckon you'll get:
Frame £300
Forks £150
Wheels £100
The rest £50
This is the opinion of someone who has bought loads of bikes second hand, sold them on if I didn't like them, but had fun playing the field. I've never made a penny on any of them, often losing quite a bit, so my valuation is probably optimistic!
Frame at 300 or maybe 350 is probably right - a large newer geometry 5 spot frame went a while ago for something like 650 whereas they used to go for over a grand.
It's an XL but that is really more like a L for those bikes...
I have a M 2009 Flux frame and a L 2012 Flux frame that are really not going to be worth a lot, but they both ride sweet and there is really little point is changing to 650B - I have tried the 650B Flux and my L 2012 is just too similar.
Just keep it and spend the money you would lose getting another bike on some Jedi tuition or similar. All those people with newer, flashier bikes will be feeling less good as you tear past them with your new skills.
There's nothing wrong with its geometry - there's plenty of youtube videos from homers hucking steep, rocky trails in the states on them, and I the first time I ever saw anyone complain about it was when I saw Hora's comments (you know - the guy who had a picture posted recently of him walking the end of BKB...)
You require a goat for the sale to go through
Plenty of sounds reasons on here.
I think you've got to remove the idea of what you think its worth. There are plenty of new options for around 1k that look way more appealing (snazzy paint, latest wheels etc.) You can't compete with that on an old boutique brand.
I've owned several Turners and always sold them at good prices *after* a year. But the five spot does struggle now price wise; we've sold two at the local shop and they both had to bottom out at between 5-600, and both were good spec and good bikes.
Given it's not made any more tells you it's worth to Turner too.
Move all your gear along quickly and you will retain some money when you sell it. Hang on to it for more than two years and you will drop off the bottom. Even at a year old I think 50% is very likely.
Not particularly aiming this at renton, but I think it's an emotional shortcoming to hang on to products because of what we think about them. I learned ages ago that it doesn't help in your 'consumer' progress. The world is a cheap -ass place and prices for stuff are forced downward from new so why not accept you can't have it at both ends and move something on of yours to help someone else get a good deal?
The reason, you can't find someone who a) wants it and b)agrees with your valuation.
+1 for what rone said
My bikes are objects that deprecate, what I have done on them adds nothing to the value.
It's not going to increase in value in your garage, it's not getting much use so just get rid for what you can. If anything strip it and keep the running gear for spares and get shot of the frame.
I don't disagree with any of the above but also no matter how good nick its in buyers are going to see it as a an old bike that is a potential liability and need shock, pivots, forks etc servicing or replacing. unfortunatley that trumps how you see it as an asset worth a nominal figure you've arbitrarily (is that right spelling?) awarded it. If you've got the room keep it and enjoy it when you can- you don't need to spend much on a hackfor a 5 mile commute. ( might even get an old 26" rigid cheap!)
As I'm the market for a new bike or frame/fork I did look at your bike.Before I even looked at the price,this is what I thought;
It's too old,2010 is the year it was made
I wasn't keen on the frame colour
The wheels - hubs are OK,but I prefer Stans rims these days.Being wider I think tyres sit on them better.
I only like black forks
& finally,finishing kit is a bit low end IMO..
That's just my opinion & I'm sure it's a great bike, it's just not the one I wanted.
FWIW,I've got a mix of 10 bikes 'n frames in the garage cos I'm not prepared to take a huge hit on the price I paid for them & what people will actually pay for them. I'd rather have them gathering dust & just used occasionally than do that TBH
Why isn't it selling? Have you ever ridden one? Then there's your answer.
I slagged off the 1/ 1/8 headtube one on here and was flamed for it. Awkward old school set of angles etc. The next one (bigger headtube) was a totally different beast.
Found it a bit tricky to push?
Into a canal where the other old pig bikes rest?
Everytime you start a thread like this there will be 10 less people interested in buying it - because they'll read all the reasons [i]why[/i] it's not selling and think something like "hmm, maybe I should try big wheels instead of an XL 26er".
So basically You are saying it's worth the same as some older spesh enduros.....
???????
2008 test bike .....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/specialized-enduro-/121515196192?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item1c4adebf20&nma=true&si=FX3cTpxlvkGpVRN0r4aRwCVAhEU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Go away and have a think about this quote...
it just doesn't make sense to sell.
You don't want the bike and you're not going to ride it. So how can it possibly make sense not to sell?
So you all reckon a 2010 boutique bike is worth less than some older run of the mill specialized bikes ?
Chakaping I want to sell it for what I think is a fair price.
A lot of folk on here are saying it's worth around the same as older run of the mill bikes ?
How does that work ?
If its worth less than you are prepared to sell it for ,which it looks like it is, then you may as well just keep it as a spare bike.
I've still got my old 2005 specialized enduro partly for this reason (and partly because I just like it) , I still use it every now and again when something on my usual bike is broken, and it always surprises me how good it still feels even 10 years after it was bought.
Whats a 2005 spesh enduro worth ? £300-£500 depending on spec? not worth selling it for that, so I just keep it.
I keep expecting to get on it after a year of riding new geometry,new suspension tech, new brake tech and find it feels old, sketchy, nervous ,slow etc, but it doesnt, it still feels ok, not quite as good as the latest and greatest, but perfectly ok. I'm sure at some point new tech will have moved on a long way and it will feel really old in comparison, but for now its fine for me as a spare bike.
as I mentioned earlier, I sold my Ibis mojo HD frame, ccdb air shock, and marz 55 rc3 ti forks , but kept the carbon wheels, and these now live on the old enduro, its slowly being upgraded, as I upgrade parts on my main bike, the parts they replaced will move down onto the enduro. And the parts off the enduro will be sold or binned.
renton - Member
So basically You are saying it's worth the same as some older spesh
Yep, that's what they are saying. I feel for you Renton, but the bike is worth only what someone will pay.
Renton - my opinion why it's not selling
It's an XL with "small" wheels
You had it powder coated a non standard colour
It's got outdated geometry
It's got a 1 1/8 headtube
All of those things will make it harder to sell.
For what it's worth I sold my Large 2010 Nicolai Helius frame- arguably a more "boutique" frame than a Turner but it counts for nothing (1 1/8 headtube - ano black) a year ago for £400 and things have moved away from 26" considerably since then.
Stick it on eBay with a low reserve and see how it goes. You may just be surprised. I reckon you'll get around £700.
If it were me I'd get a cheap commuter and keep hold of it for the odd occasion when you do ride off road. A new bike won't necessarily make you ride more.
You didn't think about it long enough!
If you won't eBay it, put it on Pinkbike and lower the price by £50 each week until it goes.
Maybe we can run a sweepstake on what it'll sell for? I'll go for £800 including postage.
I'm buying a whyte 629 off of a lad on here.
I reckon I may just swap all the newer slx stuff and the apparently not bling enough Easton finishing kit onto it and rebuild the five spot with the x5 and x7 stuff off the whyte.
Then either sell it cheaper or keep it as a spare for when I get my riding mojo back.
