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Why does my cassette keep coming loose?

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Hi,

11 speed Xt cassette, novatec rear hub and they keep coming loose.

2 days in bike park wales this week. End of day 1 the shop tightened it for me (bastard tight with a massive lever). 4 blue and red runs later it was loose again.

It's happened before, a massive spanner kept it tight for ages. I've never had cassettes come loose before.

Any suggestions other than do it up tighter?

Thanks 😀


 
Posted : 29/07/2023 10:29 pm
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I’d say the thread has lost some of its newness? Hopefully on the cassette not the free hub, got an old cassette you can nick the lock nut off of?


 
Posted : 29/07/2023 10:34 pm
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Tried some loctite? Something like 242 might help or 243 is a wee bit stronger


 
Posted : 29/07/2023 10:35 pm
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Missing spacer?


 
Posted : 29/07/2023 10:52 pm
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Seen similar on a couple of  DTswiss freehubs where the last cog doesn't sit fully on the end of the freehub. Overhangs a bit much. It then bites into the freehub. This can let it move, which loosens the lock ring.

Check the end of your freehub see if it looks a little chewed up.

If so. New freehub time...


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 1:01 am
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the shop tightened it for me (bastard tight with a massive lever).

Any suggestions other than do it up tighter?

Given ‘… massive lever’ tightness may not be the problem.

While Loctite is a solution for many things a quick-loosening cassette lock ring seems like a thing to find the underlying cause of before a Loctite solution.

I’d go with mangled threads or a missing spacer.

Missing spacer would be my first diagnosis to explore as mangled threads would have gotten in the way of the shop’s
work.

Good luck.


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 7:55 am
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Thanks all!

I don't think it's the spacer, when I had this in the past I checked this carefully.

I'll check the threads.

The free hub is chewed up to the extent I have a spare one ready to go on. Maybe it's time to swap it in


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 8:12 am
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I would swap it and perhaps use a new lockring if possible, any freehub that's working correctly shouldn't be coming loose.


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 9:01 am
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I had this issue and changed out a metal spacer behind the cassette for a plastic one.

A different occasion I changed the locknut and it seemed to work.

No idea why, really, in either case. But I agree with the comments above to try these first.


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 9:17 am
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If it was a spacer issue surely it would be obviously moving, I regularly check for play by giving the cassette's big cog a wiggle, it's a habit I do after installing a cassette too so I would instantly know about any play, It sounds like a worn or sloppy thread issue, especially if overtightened, 40nm is decent amount but can be achieved with a regular length socket wrench, bastard tight with massive lever suggests way way over 40nm, new freehub and lockring time, threadlock might cause a huge removal issue, I wouldn't.


 
Posted : 30/07/2023 9:45 am