Find it so difficult to respond to a cheery " Good morning" and a wave ? Are we really the spawn of the devil ? Are they so wedded to Strava etc or believe they really are KOM or in the TDF ? Would it really hurt to respond in a positive way and lighten up just a tad ?
Just a nice 30 mile ride today , the sun's out and so are lots of other cyclists. As I pass them it's always " Morning" or " Afternoon" a lot of the time I get a similar cheery response but there's quite a lot who take it far too seriously head down , grimacing , I think just lighten up and enjoy your ride.
1: If you are not in their mamil uniform you are not a part of their tribe. Particularly if you are not wearing a helmet you get less aknowledgement
2: why should they anyway? I find it a bit weird many cyclists expect this.
Some folk are cheery and will wave / respond. Some folk won't. The type of bike they are riding is irrelevant. FWIW, the most dour-faced cyclists I've ever seen have been on MTBs.
Oh is it time for the "I waved at a roadie and he/she didn't wave back, wah wah wah!" thread again?
I find equal ignorance amongst roadies and mtbers. My most blatant snub came on a very remote unpopulated trail where I saw an MTB approaching from a considerable distance. When he finally got level he ignored my greeting and rode past without a glance . It's just people
Jesus Christ do we need to do this one every two months?
Why are some MTBers so needy that they need hugs and acknowledgement from every person they pass? etc etc
Edit: that wasn't in response to FOG, that guy sounded a bit weird!
...always dress in black? If I were to ride on the roads, which I don't unless there is no alternative, I would make sure I was as visible as possible
It's a reflection of the person and not being a roadie. I find it happens on the mtb as well.
I dont say hello to pretty much everyone i pass when on the road bike, not beacuse im a miserable sod (well i am but...) i can pass 30+ people on a ride and ive got headphones in so i cant be arsed to say hello to everyone i pass, im very much a head down and concentrating on my road ride kinda person
Plus i like riding the road bike to get away from people so i dont have to interact with anyone, also i dont do cafe stops (much to the horror of any roadies i do actually speak to when im not on the bike) i dont like coffee and im on the road bike to help lose/maintain weight so why would i stop to fatten up!
MTB is completley different, its more of a social thing for me, having fun and catching up with mates, i tend to pass less people and im going at a slower pace so a bit more inclined to say hello and interact with people walking/riding when they make space for me to pass
There's only one person on this thread that needs to
lighten up just a tad
“ always dress in black?”
do they? Just got back from a short road ride and didn’t see anyone in black apart from black shorts and a lot of other colours as well, had a fair few hello’s from others when at slow speeds.
I usually just do a little left hand finger wave off the hood if overtaking and an index finger lift of the right hand if passing in opposite direction but make little note of anything in return as often speed, how busy the road is and how focussed they are on the abysmal road surface/potholes dictates if they will notice you.
None of these interactions require starting a thread on a cycling forum though, that’s just weird.
It’s not being needy it’s being polite , it costs nothing.
Why? Do you acknowledge every pedestrian when you are walking? Every car driver when you are driving? Everyone in the swimming pool?
Wave if you want to for sure but understand others might think it a bit odd.
I use a bike for utility ie round town going to the shops etc - should I wave to e4veryone on a bike? How about when I am in normal clothes and heading out for an hour? Or is it only when on a popular cyclists route with loads of mamils around ( they blank me if I am not in lycra generally) If I am at a trail centre on my MTB?
don't ever go to the Netherlands! No one ever acknowledges anyone in public there - its considered rude to do so!
When he finally got level he ignored my greeting and rode past without a glance . It’s just people
Dutch or Finnish? Both of them would find it really rude not to ignore them
Ah, the old 'roadies shouldn't wear black because they can't be seen, but I can see them, so I wave to them and they don't wave back' paradox.
Different strokes for different folks.
Do you wave at every body when you're walking down the street because they are doing the same "sport" I doubt it. Why should another cyclist who doesn't know you from Tadej be expected to wave enthusiastically at you?
Wave if you want, can't understand why people get so upset if someone dares to not reciprocate
Why? Do you acknowledge every pedestrian when you are walking? Every car driver when you are driving? Everyone in the swimming pool?
The likelihood of me acknowledging other people I cross paths with is inversely proportional to the density of people in that time and space, with exceptions of course, also my mood can be a big influence.
People might actually enjoy riding fast/racey bikes... fast, and that sometimes involves putting in a bit of an effort that precludes sitting up and greeting everyone you pass. If I'm trying to do an interval as part of some very loosely structured 'training' I will probably be hurting, or if I'm (say it quietly) chasing a segment I might not want to sit up and slow down to say hi to someone.
Would you stand at the side of a football pitch and get all upset because the players weren't saying hi to you every time they run past?
Apparently. Plus, I find that mtbers are pretty consistent at not responding to a greeting if I’m on my road or gravel bike.
I find this pretty tr5e. Riding an mtb round the roads of east lothian in ordinary clothes few roadies acknowledge, on my road bike in lycra more do. riding without a magic plastic hat you get less acknowledgement than if you have one on
Its all about the tribe you are in. folk tend to acknowledge those from the same tribe more than they do other tribes
When I'm riding, I'll acknowledge almost everyone (not in a vehicle), cyclists, walkers, runners, horsey folk, farmers, sheep, cows, horses, birds etc. I don't really expect them to acknowledge me back in return. The chances of them doing so tend to depend on how far we are away from "civilisation". The more remote the location, the more friendly folk generally are.
Spain and France seem to be exceptions to this. Maybe they just see another tourist and think "well, you can **** right off".
When I’m riding, I’ll acknowledge almost everyone (not in a vehicle), cyclists, walkers, runners, horsey folk, farmers, sheep, cows, horses, birds etc. I don’t really expect them to acknowledge me back in return.
When do you have time for the actual riding after all that manic waving and greeting every living soul and animal on your ride?
The more remote the location, the more friendly folk generally are.
Certainly true.
To confuse things even more, I often forget when I am riding the motorbike and wave at cyclists.
Then when cycling I often give a nod to motorbikes.
No idea (or care) what they think. #muchlolz
I'm in Italy atm....
This last week I've totalled up over 250km....
If you are not in their mamil uniform you are not a part of their tribe
I'm wearing a cotton shirt(unbuttoned on the climbs as it's 30°C+), lycra shorts with a hole on my arse and SPDs.
Everyone waves here in Italy. It's great.
Forget about it and go watch the new Akrigg video on Whyte bikes Youtube channel (unless you're an extreme e-bike hater ofc).
Alpin - IME Spain Italy and France are much less tribal about this stuff. I was riding an MTB dragging a trailer full of camping kit up mountain passes being overtaken by roadies and they both gave me a decent amount of room when passing and were encouraging and pleasant. A nice change to the local roadies around here.
Meanwhile, whilst out on the road bike on Thursday, a passing motorists gave a friendly toot of the horn, as he overtook me, so I waved back.
Strangely,he only rated my wave as a 2 (well, that's how many fingers he held up.)
I'm may have been overly generous by saying "friendly toot"
I find it depends on the time of day, if I'm out of my gravel bike and it's before 8:00 a.m. I always say hi to mountain bikers and roadies and get a reply
Later in the day I've noticed that many people don't return the greeting
I pass a MTB every day when we cycle to work. Never responds but the roadie I see daily is almost hysterical in his greeting.
Jesus Christ do we need to do this one every two months?
you could just not reply. #meta
The motorbike nod thing is getting a bit much these days. There's frikkin millions out. Usually can barely be arsed anymore.
As a kayaker, I like to give a wave to people with roof boxes.
Always say hi out cycling.
What conclusion did we come to the last time someone got offended about this?
Can we do mountain bike shoes on road bikes tomorrow please?
I once had one say hello as he passed me going up a hill.
What he really meant was you are shit and I’m far superior.
Be grateful you were ignored.
The motorbike nod thing is getting a bit much these days
Time and a place for them init.
Wee country lanes are fine, 'making progress on the M6,not so much.
