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Cheers. Had a hunt and unsurprisingly haven’t been able to find some bits with stock/an expected stock date anywhere (the 812 RD seems to be particularly tricky). That coupled with the extra cost, and I’m probably just chasing my tail again.
Think the solution might be just be a cheapo eBay job to ride over spring/summer then sell again in Autumn and buy the actual one I want then. Doesn’t seem like the shortage is going to get any better any time soon. Such a pain in the arse
Yeah, there was a thread in the last week or so asking for 812 RD alternatives because there was zero stock about.
My pal has a Vitus Substance and it's a nice bike. Worth considering at the price.
Lots of discussion about the Camino in this thread... I'm just trying to puzzle out why the GRX and Rival versions are priced the same when, by all accounts, GRX is the better groupset? Any ideas?
@numbo - I've seen new bikes where the GRX groupset is cheaper than SRAM Apex or Rival.
Also are you comparing like for like? GRX can be mixed up a fair bit but Apex1 tends to be a full groupset
Also remember GRX is not just GRX - there is GRX400 which is 10 speed, GRX 600 and GRX 800 which are 11 speed.
To be fair it's a very reasonable question.
SRAM's offering is a few years old now, and it does feel like the GRX set up on the Camino (a mix of 400 on the calipers and 600 elsewhere) should be more expensive/Rival should be cheaper.
Also does seem to be quite a personal thing though - some people don't seem to get on with SRAM at all and vice-versa with Shimano. Coming from a Shimano background personally, I'm keen to go with GRX but getting any bike specced with GRX isn't easy at the moment, unless you're willing to compromise elsewhere.
In case anyone is interested, I'm actually seriously considering taking the Camino frame geometry, trying to alter it a little so that it's sized in between a medium and a large then asking Waltly to build a Ti version of the frame for me + forks. There's a few vids kicking around on Youtube about them and it seems pretty solid. Reckon I could get it all done for under £2,000...and it's building my own = more fun, right? 😉
No chance of getting a GRX specced Camino before Sept unless one happens to come up second hand, and I've dumped Merlins' offering as I think it might just be a bit too roadie...
Waltly make Sonder's Ti, so you can always get your custom geo through them and keep the warranty, UK support etc.
I did think that might be the case looking at them to be honest! Good to know.
Haven't got to the point where I'm asking for a quote from Waltly yet but it sounds like it's c. £700 for the frame, so potentially looking at an additional £500 for basically the same product...
FYI as I know the Caminos are pretty popular on here: Sonder apparently just went live with new stock (including GRX 1x) about an hour ago. Don't think it's a weblisting error this time as they announced it on twitter/FB and with new colours too.
I was after the minty green one but that seems to have gone now, and there doesn't seem to be a picture of the new "sage" but that's what I've taken a punt on...Hopefully I'll get more of an idea in time to change my order if it turns out to be horrible!
Hope this helps someone else who has been furiously refreshing their website every other day!
Hey folks, I have a Camino with latest fork, I come from an mtb background and still e-bike for daft off piste mountain stuff (sinner eh!) just wanted to share my experience of the Camino with a focus on the more off road end of gravel…
My rationale to get a gravel bike was driven by my love of high end hard tails etc. (various Pipedream home builds, Kona Hei Hei CR, Marin, multiple On-one’s (amazed how capable Scandal 29er is 👌)) that I’m blown away by my Camino. With flat swept back (16 degree) bars it fears nothing and has a level of fun and old school agility only my 1990s Univega gets near. And, being 47 it’s light enough that I can keep up with my 35 year old buddies. My setup is AXS on an XX1 12 speed 52/10 rear Cassette, Carbon XX1 cranks, Hunt Gravel wheels on Vitoria rubber, SRAM Level T brakes…so yes almost a 90’s MTB but soooo much faster on the tarmac, Camino great but any half decent gravel bike (my Decathlon Triban 120 at c.£400 was mega) should make anyone smile again and being back the simple fun off road riding brings. Equally many people rave over the Malt so hope you are enjoying which ever way you went.