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Theres a really good community in fat biking. I've met up with riders all round uk and Europe. Often bump into other fatties out riding or at events, everyone seems super friendly.
Theres also all the global fatbike day meet ups in December plus various other random meets through uk fatbike club on FB.
All my riding buddies have fatbikes now, although suits the terrain here (coastal beaches and boggy forest!)
Made some good friends through fat bikes. And have regular trips to the Alps for proper snow.
Trek GB site show 2020 Farley 5 and a Farley 9.6 which is a great bike have a 2016 one cheers.
Mine is sitting in my hallway all covered in mud having been ridden last night
Rode my Mukluk this afternoon at Bedgebury and it too is covered in mud (pretty much its natural state to be fair). Its perfect for much of my winter riding and I live in Sussex! No maintenance, great on mud, still rubbish on green chalk but better than anything else I've tried. Plus its a good work out!
Just back from a spin on mine, use it for most conditions but when the snow turns to boiler plate i'll go back to ice spikers on the hardtail.
Where are all the fat bikes?
Deep in the mountains where ordinary bikes fear to tread...
Haha spot on
Great pic. Srt of sums us up, just get out and have a laugh whatever the weather. Global Fatbike coming up, going to be slightly muddy 😉
My rigid fatty was a fat bike.
My front suspension fatty is just a very ,very good trail bike that just happens to have big fat wheels.
Global fatbike day ride at Formby beach (between Liverpool and Southport) on 7/12/19 if anyone is interested? its posted on the usual Farcebook Fatbike sites
Does anybody make electric fat bikes?
Felt do.
Deep in the mountains where ordinary bikes fear to tread…
Mibbe in your neck of the woods, apart from one guy locally, everyone else I know bought them as an excuse to be slow uphills and shit on descents.
My rigid fatty was a fat bike.
My front suspension fatty is just a very ,very good trail bike that just happens to have big fat wheels.
Pretty much echoes my recent experience going from my old 9zero7 to my new Cube Nutrail. Just feels like a mountain bike, but it has larger than average tyres.
Another +1 for the Calibre Dune here. Cheap enough to upgrade brakes and I've added a dropper. Fantastic fun and you can cruise passed the gravellers pushing their way up slippery technical climbs still with traction to spare...
I stripped my Calibre Dune last weekend. Can't quite bring myself to take the cracked frame to the tip. Must buy another frame of some sort...
@slamman69 any plans to do a fattie frame with 197mm rear spacing...?
I would still be riding mine (a Pugs) if it hadn’t been stolen in the summer.
That said, I guess my current bike is fat (road) bike 😉
"Great in mud"
I thought this was one of their weak points and that they slithered all over it being unable to cut through.The old school of thought was that a narrower tyre was better for that reason.
Please enlighten me.
I thought this was one of their weak points and that they slithered all over it being unable to cut through.The old school of thought was that a narrower tyre was better for that reason.
Please enlighten me.
Opposite way of dealing with the problem.
There's 2 types of grip, friction derived from the trail and the tyre compound. And mechanical derived from the ability of the tread pattern to dig in and not slip. In mud it's mostly the latter.
In deep mud the tread pattern will work up until the point the shearing load on the mud exceeds it's ability to resit it. i.e. the tyre doesn't slip, the mud slips over more mud. A CX bike works on it's ability to exceed the shear in a vertical plane and sink down to ground solid enough not to shear in the horizontal plane. A fat bike works because you have such a big contact patch the horizontal shear doesn't exceed the mud's ability to resist in the first place.
Normal MTB tyres sometimes struggle as they can neither dig down or spread the load sufficiently so you end up just paddle wheeling through.
It works. Although I'd caveat that with "it depends on the mud". They work brilliantly on fast muddy corners where they carry speed, but show them a long steep muddy bridleway climb churned by horses hooves, and the CX bike will storm ahead.
Last year I would have agreed that fattys can wash out in mud.
Fitted an Edna and it goes straight through my slippiest patch of mud.
"but show them a long steep muddy bridleway climb churned by horses hooves, and the CX bike will storm ahead."
I find the opposite. With around 8-9 PSI my Dillinger 5 tyres and a 28 x 42 my Mukluk will climb pretty much anything except green chalk, especially muddy churned up bridal paths. My Pinnacle with 700c Nano's will only climb well in mud if its super wet and the base layer rock is easily accessible underneath.
Where the fatbike slides around is on wet rock and roots but I prefer using a different bike in those circumstances anyway.
I am amused about the "fatbike community" and the recommendations of that facebook page. That facebook page is full of such numpties that it makes this place look reasonable. I got told all sorts of nonsense on there with such vitriol that I had to leave it. I was told I do not fit the fatbike lifestyle and that I should sell mine simply because I questioned the wisdom of advising a newb that they were great for commuting 15 road miles on!
Its just a bike FFS. a bike with fat tyres!
10 KG fatbike? I'd love to see the spec and some pictures
My Pinnacle with 700c Nano’s will only climb well in mud if its super wet and the base layer rock is easily accessible underneath.
Ermmm, not really a fair test comparing dillinger to nanos though is it?
And my point was not about getting up a climb, its about speed.
E.g. theres one climb on one of my local loops, fairly straight and consistent for about 3 minutes and all about 4-6" deep in slop at the moment. The fatty will trudge up it in bottom gear no drama, the CX bike flies up in 36-30 (mostly spinning out, but the high cadence stops it stalling on the burried roots).
Coming down would be another matter!
But as TJ says, its just a bike, it doesnt have to be better at everything.
I'm on my 2nd fat bike. Had a Cube Nutrail which was great but I didn't like the geo too much and then got the chance to upgrade to a Canyon Dude.
Now that is a seriously good bike!
It's also very versatile. I'm building up a set of 29 wheels which can take anything from 2.25" to 3" tyres so with the fork travel at 120mm it's similar spec to a Santa Cruz Carbon Chameleon which a mate has just bought.
10 KG fatbike? I’d love to see the spec and some pictures
There was a guy on the FB page who made a 10kg FS fatty.
My Nutrail is 13.2 Kg - but that's 2x and with a dropper, so I guess there could be some weight to be lost if I cared enough 🙂 Feels and "rides" very light.
My Voodoo Wazoo is ~10.5Kg IIRC from default weight ~16.5Kg...
Fat wheels (3.8Kg) replaced with FatNotFat 29ers (2.3Kg)
Fat tubes (1.1Kg) currently replaced with 700x28mm latex (0.15Kg)
26x4" Mission Command (3.1Kg) currently replaced with 700x28 Conti 4 Seasons (0.6Kg)
Alloy fork (1.5Kg) replaced with Fatty Carbon (0.6Kg)
Alloy bars (0.4Kg) replaced with Knuckleball "chewy" (0.2Kg)?
Saddle (0.4Kg) replaced with Charge Spoon (0.3Kg)?
PX bottle cage added (0.1Kg)??
Using non-stock stem and pedals, but think they are roughly weight neutral.
Over my ~2Kg lighter road bike, which has lighter ~1.5Kg wheels, I can easily lose 30secs+ over a 6min+ road climb.
Fat wheels (3.8Kg) replaced with FatNotFat 29ers (2.3Kg)
Fat tubes (1.1Kg) currently replaced with 700x28mm latex (0.15Kg)
26×4″ Mission Command (3.1Kg) currently replaced with 700×28 Conti 4 Seasons (0.6Kg)
Not a fat bike then?
Why would you run 700x28 in a fat frame? Even for a frankenbike parts bin build that's a bit daft. Especially as you already have a road bike.
As for a 22lb fat bike, easy enough, what you gain in tyres (500g an end), you offset in the fork (-1000g), 65mm rims are ~500g, so only 200g over crests for the pair. And the rest is just a mid to high end XC bike and hang it off a carbon beargrease frame.
I love my Dune, as TJ days it's just a bike with fat tyres.
I missed peak fat by the time I got mine. But then I was late to the SS party too.
Might try and get out on the Dune this weekend.
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Crankset is on heavy side, and it has tubes, so at least 1.5kg could be removed.
Could be under 10 kg with fewer spacers...
Against the grain of this thread now, my On-One fatty is 43lb.... Still don't understand the why of the whole enterprise, still don't care, still use it happily. It's just a bike that takes me places, allbeit slowly.
Why would you run 700×28 in a fat frame? Even for a frankenbike parts bin build that’s a bit daft. Especially as you already have a road bike.
My fatbike is my commuter, I sometimes run it with the fat wheels, but it's usually the FatNotFat 29ers with anything from 700x27 (Conti Grand Sport Race 25mm) in the summer through to 29x2.35" G-One. Through winter it usually has 700x38mm Marathon Cross or Gravdal ice spiked tyres on it.
I chose to fit the 4 Seasons before heading to North Wales last week, because the forecast looked chilly without being sub zero and I wanted to have a peak at the local categorised climbs, including the nuts gradient Gwaenysgor.
It's my flat bar "adventure bike" that can go anywhere where speed is not of the essence and I could easily replace it if something happened with something sub £600 like a Voodoo Marasa or a Boardman HYB 8.6.
My carbon road bike is dry weather only pretty much and to replace it with something similar spec for the price I paid in 2017 would be a big challange.
Buying the Wazoo in 2016 wasn't about buying the right bike for the cycling I did back then or for what I usually do now, but after my 2013 RTA my road cycling confidence was very low, the Wazoo gave me a fun way to enjoy road cycling again.
As and when the Wazoo dies, it will be a toss up between another flat bar hybrid of a more convention kind, or maybe an drop bar adventure/gravel bike.
10kg isn’t impossible. Mines (Mukluk Carbon) 12.2ish, with 4.8 minions, a kg worth of tubes, a long reverb and kit that works, rather than being super light.
How do you get to 43lbs?! That’s more than some ebikes!
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10 KG fatbike? I’d love to see the spec and some pictures
I didn't go mad on lightness with mine but if I ditched the dropper post and stuck on juggernauts it wouldn't be a long way off. Instead, I fitted 4.8 minions and a 210mm drop post because I am enduro as ****.
FBF, inner tubes, Decathlon dropper, Jones steel bar, Beerbabes bag, spare inner tube, pump, water bottle, mudguards.... These things alone probably weigh 10lb. Cheap 80mm rims on original On-One hubs. I could go lighter with a little effort, but it is comfy as is and I don't really care about the mass.
Happy to provide a spec and some pics if i can work out how to host some somewhere,
Rough spec
Frame : Smokestone BowTi Large
Fork : Salsa Makwa carbon
Wheels : Ican 65mm rims, Sapim cx ray spokes, Tune hubs (1750g wheelset)
Tyres: Jumbo jims (the older 990g ones)
Brakes : Xtr m9000, Hope floating 160mm
Cassette : Garbaruk 10-50 11 speed (300ish grams)
Drivetrain: Raceface next crank either 36t or 42t Absolute black oval dependent on event, custom Exact actuation mech (rival/ Eagle combo)
Bars : Mt zoom carbon with ESI chunky grips
Saddle: Selle italia Carbon 135g
Seatpost: Kcnc scandium
Pedals: Crank brothers 11
Other, Mudhugger, garmin mount.
Total weight 9.95kg with flat xc bars, The whole exact actuation thing allows me to swap to hydro drop bars for endurance races these have sram shifters and hope rx4 calipers. Tips the scales at 10.2kg with the drop bar setup.
Theyre not for everyone but i bloody love them
At Laggan today 🙂
There're probably out having fun!
Here's a few photo's from the last 4 weeks of my fat rides...
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Well that's been a fantastic 4 weeks!
Fat biking is just something that should be done, it's soo much fun 🙂
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience on a fatty group. I guess like every forum you get people with strange views and so on. People who ride fatbikes are no different to anyone else, we all ride bikes. I often have nasty remarks directed at me on this forum for some reason so I tend to stay off hear. Forums can be nasty places. Some just love to abuse from afar. Again very sorry for your experience and please don't tar us all with the same brush. Life's to short.
Hi, if you want it in aluminium, not for a while, if you can stretch to titanium we make one now. Our BowTi frame comes in both axle sizes.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience on a fatty group. I guess like every forum you get people with strange views and so on. People who ride fatbikes are no different to anyone else, we all ride bikes. I often have nasty remarks directed at me on this forum for some reason so I tend to stay off hear. Forums can be nasty places. Some just love to abuse from afar. Again very sorry for your experience and please don’t tar us all with the same brush. Life’s to short.
Huh? Has a post been deleted?