[Closed] What's up at On one? (speculation content)

I blame Thatcher 🙄

Alchemy

No, the new Ti XC frame isnt an overlap with the 456 if it was taken from todays Inbred yes there is an overlap as they both take 120mm forks, from the little on the site about the new Ti XC its going to go back to early 80-100mm adjusted guise.

Todays Inbred and the 456 definately do have an overlap.

I dont know what the Ti 456 weighs in at but must be 4lb plus in 18" my old tinbred was 3.5lb, so as this ones criteria is to be built light, so maybe we can expect 3-3.5lb for the new frame?

Obviously all just guess work.

Interesting. I did not know the ti 456 was overbuilt like that.

I wondered if they are seeking ot create a nw "post Brant" identity ❓

I am assuming quite a bit, but its a big burley bike for big burly hits, am not saying its overbuilt just that its well built to take the forks and hits its designed for... Its certainly not a race wippet, and the new bike sounds from the little we know to be just that.

From the on One site about the Ti XC

Lynskey did a 10/10 job on the On-One 456 so we decided to let them build the lightest Race frame they could!

Bit late i know but here is the basics.

On one was basically left to its town devices for the last 6 months with planet x staff chipping in as and when they could.

they have now brought in me and some other guys who are trying to bring the old girl back to her sprightly self.

we have a massive order due this week and we only have a small space to fit it in so part of the sales stuff is to clear some room.

also some of our frames will have to be modified / discontinued because of the CEN issues so there is no point in having a load if stock, lets get rid and give you guys some deals.

new people = new ideas so yes there may be some overlap in frames but then who says you have to have 100% different stuff?

there is a lot in the pipeline, you will be impressed.

The new Ti XC frame is not for me I'm afraid which is a shame as I was hoping for a replacement for my Inbred 853 but in ti and with the "swap-out" system. To me this is just going to the other end of the market; you've got the ti456 as the hardcore hardtail and therefore is stiffer than say a Soda and not so XC orientated, and now they've gone the other end: lightweight, low travel race bike. Shame as I thought the larger market would be the middle of the road XC market even if there was overlap with the ti456.

So what ti frames are out there for 4 to 5 inch forks, longish reach and can be run SS or geared? Shame the Soda or Ridgeline don't have slidey dropouts

Custom?

[i]Custom? [/i]

Yeah, probably but I'm sure some company someday will bring out something similar to the spec I'm after. Patience is a virtue and all that crap 🙂

I'm sure they will.

You've got more patience than me

are the frame prices in the new drop going to be the same as at present/shown on the website ie steel frames at £125, scandals at £199 - inbred 29er @ £99?

Ti 456 in 18" is 3.6lbs.

lighter than a Hummer and exactly the same as a 19" Soda.

nuke ...might happen yet

Vinnyeh - ALL Steel mountain bike frames will be £125 (or a penny over where our system rounds it up). The Scandals MAY or MAY NOT be repriced. We'll be looking at the price of everything and adjusting accordingly.

Nuke - not too sure what you are getting at. the Whippet is more XC orientated but follows the Inbred geometry.

For the record the ti 456 16" is bang on 3.5lb, measured on decent scales. Not a bad weight eh?

Podge is no doubt right... but I suspect they have simply been down the pub (which is great reason to do good deals - works for me 😉

are you still going to be selling the normal scandal 26" frames (i.e. not slot dropout?). Also, would you recommend running it with 150mm forks?
thanks

I thought the 26er Scandal was designed for up to 120mm forks. 150mm forks, and the abuse they suggest, seems a bit much for a poor old scandium XC frame.

jfeb - on the on one website they've taken off the page about the normal scandal 26" frames, hence the question. IIRC though it did state that it's designed for up to 130mm forks - since thepodge was online thought i'd get their option on what difference the extra 20mm would make to the handling etc. doubt i ride hard enough to give my current 150mm forks the abuse they culd stand up to! (and they cn be dialled down)

damn and nothing doing in the 16" bikes..pah!

Charlie TBM - I'm always right, though there are people who would disagree. its simply a case of getting stock and the company moving again.

crispedwheel, and all those that keep asking - the plan is to stick with slot drop out only. this means 1 frame design, lower costs and less problems. as for the fork side of things, it says on our website "Suspension corrected for 80 to 100mm forks - a/c dimension for this geometry - 470mm + headset" so 150mm forks = bad

fatmuthahubbard - what you on about? we have a 40 foot container due any moment now, if you want something and we dont have it now, we will very soon.

What's the price of the Ti 456 frame?

Kramer - Member

What's the price of the Ti 456 frame?

£1200, isn;t it?

Podge, are you getting in 16" inbreds @ £125 in the next container? If you are, I may not take up Brant's offer of a half price Blue Pig...

aren't they very different bikes?

I really like the way on-one/planet-x do business. It's extremely british. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm a regular customer, have been since the start. They make tough bikes that do what they say on the tin, no arsing about. sweet. I've done more happy (and cheap) miles on on-one bikes than any other in 30 years of serious cycling. That probably says quite a bit.

I ordered a frame and got two pairs of handlebars I didn't order in the box. I'm trying to give them back but it's hard work. You wouldn't get that sort of attitude with Cinelli.

I said this to them in person a couple of weeks ago, but will back up samuri here. They are a delightful company to work with, as you say very British. They have great products, a real passion for cycling and are not cut-throat hardnosed gits working out how to milk customers to the max.
The flip side of this is that they are not the best marketeers (though it works on me!) and their mail order software sometimes lets them sell stuff they ran out of 6 hours ago!
Compared with a company like Crank Bros or Oakley that sells mediocre products marketed to the max, I know where I would rather put my coins!

"Suspension corrected for 80 to 100mm forks - a/c dimension for this geometry - 470mm + headset" so 150mm forks = bad

That's referring the 29in frame Podge. Not the 26in one.

I like Planet Xs quirky way of doing business. It's nice to deal with cyclists with passion.

Your bonkers theries please!

MY theory is that the OOS frames that failed their QA for head angle were then sold to the gullible as a "Summer Season" 😉

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Those Ti 456's weigh in a fair bit less than my guess then, what with the free forks deal that must also make them the cheapest Ti frame out there by a long margin.

I look forward to seeing the Ti XC...

cynic-al - Member

aren't they very different bikes?

If you;re referring to me, then yes I suspect they are - bu as you know I need a new frame. If I can get an inbred then I will, but they're out of 16" at the moment. If I can't get an inbred (at a reasonable price) then Brant's offer on the Blue Pig is exceedingly good.

Couldnt beleive my eyes when I saw the 456's at £125. Stunningly priced. On-one bent upon worldwide domination 😀

with 456's at £125, i might get a spare 🙂

i'd like to see on-one do a carbon xc race/marathon type hardtail for £400 quid or less. as a company, they obviously have a facotry capable of making carbon frames (road), so surely wouldn't be out of this world to create an xc version? 100-120mm fork compatible please 🙂

bonesetter
You've got more patience than me

Can I have a half price blue pig?

Please?

CP it might not be under 400 quid but who knows

I may not take up Brant's offer of a half price Blue Pig...

and what have you done to deserve that?

wors - Member

and what have you done to deserve that?

[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/so-i-think-ive-found-the-cause-of-my-chainsuck ]Killed my 853 inbred :([/url]

can't say fairer than that!

Kramer - £1099 with free forks or wheels

nbt - Yes, i just unloaded a 40 foot container by my self, there was deffo some in there, plus a poss hollow compartment for drugs.

samuri - Andy is on the case, we'll get you sorted

CHB - the mailorder s/w we have here is pants, should be updated with bells and whistles in 2-3 months including pre-orders and all that jazz.

brant - correct. "Front end geometry optimised for a 4-5in suspension fork. Yes - you can go shorter (80mm is ok), but run the fork harder." because its the same as the inbred.

cp - there are things i'm not supposed to say...