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long-lasting & plugs small slashes in carcass (little flints --> slits, max about half a cm long normally)

I'm not fussed about cost, if it's better & lasts a long time without drying (or is art-shop stuff just as good anyway)

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Posted : 25/06/2009 8:48 am
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i used to use jra stuff but my dt wheels never seemed to real right and constantly needed tossing up i changed to stans and it sealed right away holds air much longer and seems to stay fluid longer too


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:04 am
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thanks Mick - you get any biggish holes where you ride? (I don't really seem to get thorns much where I ride, so pinholes aren't so common - just little slashes)

what's the biggest cut/hole I could expect jizz to fix (I read a post the other day suggesting using pink glitter in the liquid ! Sounds fantastic, but was in response to a Q about small cuts not sealing - which worries me a bit)


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:15 am
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I've tried them all! Currently using Stans as it's the best value, but have had a puncture or 2, not completely sealed.
Bonty Superjuice worked well (on Mud-X tyres).
The [i]best[/i] though, I think is the Geax stuff as the particles in it are larger and it doesn't dry out as quick as any of the others. Quite pricey though. [url= http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Geax-GTT-Tubeless-Therapy-Tyre-Sealant_W0QQitemZ200351323845 ]This[/url] stuff.
What tyres are you using? as I find that makes a much bigger difference than the juice being used.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:21 am
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I use this:

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Claims to seal up to 1/4" holes - very pleased with it and certainly plugs holes well thanks to the bits in the mix.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:21 am
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I'm on a UST nobby nick (the evo triple nano wibbleRAD model) I've only done 1 wheel so far, as a tester

Tyre seems pretty bloody fragile to me. I suppose it's probably grippy but it's cut quite widely after about 25 miles. Think I need something cheaper TBH, I don't really need top grip round here


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:29 am
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stans by a long way ime


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:30 am
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Agreed, Super Juice is dire, it's alright for getting tyres to inflate, but it's useless for sealing punctures.

JRA Art Latex dries within days, I've never had Stan's dry out, although I do change tyres fairly regularly. It's good value, it's easy to swap between tyres as it's nice and runny and pools at the bottom of the tyre.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:37 am
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Hutchinson air (green stuff) lasts for years.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:38 am
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Ossom ! Thanks folks

suppose I'll try STans or Geax then - whatever I find first

(so do I need to patch the 2 slits that run right through the carcass before jizzing, or will it sort itsef out on inflation ?)


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:50 am
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Used Stans for the past couple of years and find it works fine on cuts up to 1/4" as advertised but it can take a bit of time to seal properly. I haven't tried any other make.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 9:58 am
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I've used Stan's and Joe's No Flats. They both work but I have found the Joe's stuff to be batter at sealing ghetto tubeless. You only find this out when you try and remove a tyre! It failed when I ripped a whole side lug off my HR at Laggan but then I think blue circle would have failed then too!


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:01 am
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I've been using JRA Wheel Milk with no problems here. No thorns, but lots of rocks.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:13 am
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Same findings as others for me

JRA dries out too fast
Stan's & Joe's seem to work very well & last


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:17 am
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Yes, you will need to patch them.

Tyre-wise, I'd recommend Hutchinson UST or Maxxis UST. They might be heavier, but punctures are few and far between. So far none on my Hutch Scorpions. Hutch will be joining me in the alps!


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:34 am
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Been a few threads recently on home brew wheel milk and how to make it better at sealing, or longer lasting depending on your preference/needs. Might be worth a google.


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:37 am
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Anyone know the best/cheapest place to buy Stan's?


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:16 pm
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[url= http://www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&q=%22the+solution%22+stans+OR+stan%27s&scoring=p ]ebay or JE James (32 fl oz) ??[/url]


 
Posted : 25/06/2009 11:27 pm
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Question to those who say Stan's last longer before drying out, as I'm thinking of swapping from JRA Wheel Milk:

Do you visually check inside the tyre or just shake it and listen? The reason I ask is JRA seem to be claiming that Stan's drys out into balls which could be misleading when you shake the wheel. They obviously wont seal much but will sound like there's sealant in the tyre when you shake it/spin the wheel. Is this true?


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 7:29 am
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Probably a combination of things - shake it & if I don't see any fluid when I check the pressure I'll pop the tyre & look

The JRA stuff I had dried into one big lump when left for 3 weeks or so


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 8:25 am
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Stans definitely lasts longer tha Wheel Milk, ime you have to remove the tyre to check.


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 9:38 am
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Worth a read.
[url] http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=406115 [/url]


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 9:51 am
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I have also found stans to last longest, joes sealed just as well but after about
three months i had a weird rubber alien thing living in my tyre, also found changing tyres harder with joes as the sealant stuck the tyre to the rim strip meaning having to completely refit rim strips before tyres.


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 9:52 am
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Another fan of Stans, although the Specialized stuff is also good and a lot thicker (gloopier) but hard to find.


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 12:01 pm
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The reason I ask is JRA seem to be claiming that Stan's drys out into balls which could be misleading when you shake the wheel.

Arrh, I have seen this with stans, the fluid was still in there but all the little bits had conglomerated into one big ball.


 
Posted : 26/06/2009 1:29 pm