Forum menu
What waterproof bre...
 

[Closed] What waterproof breathable shell?

Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 
[#4302695]

no need for warmth just dryness


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 8:44 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Anything goretex paclite shell. I use a mountain hardware walking jacket when I need one - does double duty for walking too.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 8:52 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Goretex Active Shell is currently leading the way. Better than Paclite - which is now being phased out - and (I reckon) slightly better than eVent.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/gore-bike-wear/fusion-gore-tex-active-shell-jacket-ec029226


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 8:59 pm
Posts: 27
Free Member
 

soooo much money though for what it does and how often you'd wear it.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:02 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

do tbc sell them?


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:02 pm
Posts: 50252
Free Member
 

Gore Active Shell is basically Gore admitting that eVent got it right, but with one difference - Active Shell stops working after a wash.

And then it doesn't get any better.

eVent may not be perfect, but it keeps working. Needs washing often, but is very, very good.

I've just bought one of these -
[img] [/img]
and I am very impressed. eVent, pit zips and a basic, yet good design. Replacing a lovely, but lost Gill eVent jacket that was very similar.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:04 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

My GT Fusion jacket is still working as new after a few washes.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:07 pm
Posts: 46086
Free Member
 

What is this 'stops working after a wash' nonsense...?


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:13 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

cfh what is it


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:19 pm
Posts: 50252
Free Member
 

Bontrager Event Packable Stormshell.

Matt, from opinions I've had in the outdoor/bike industry, Gore Active Shell doesn't take a reproof. Apparently it works well when new, but not later.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 9:21 pm
Posts: 2423
Free Member
 

CFH- looks good; what's the sizing & fit like? Trying to determine whether I'd be an M or L with just a base layer under it.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 11:51 pm
Posts: 3404
Full Member
 

My Ground Effect Flash Gordon is working well after a few years. It's been through the (Nikwax) wash a couple of times but unless the dirt is really ground in I just spray it with a hose or put it in the shower to get the worst off and then give it a warm dry. It's waterproof enough and breathable enough for most things.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 2:20 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Paclite is a bit plasticy feeling inside so won't be good against the skin - and it isn't very robust - especially if you are carrying a rucksack or the like - my paclites have only lasted about 1.5 years before the shoulders wear out under the shoulder straps.

Paclite can also feel cold as there is no insulating factor from the material as it is so thin.

If you come off the paclite is likely to be history as well.

My endura venturi event though is pretty robust - and I have worn it when it has been pretty hot with a short sleeved HH lifa underneath and it breathed ok.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 2:49 am
Posts: 356
Free Member
 

PACE do a great 'Event' shell for 100 quid. Had mine for 6 years waterproofing is only just starting to tire.
http://pacecycles.easyspaceshops.com/PACE-3x3-eVENT-Mens-Jacket

Incidently, it's the same price now as it was six years ago.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 4:05 am
Posts: 417
Free Member
 

Haglofs Endo Active shell here washed and proofed quite a few times now works perfectly.
In fact its that good breathability wise can nearly wear it every day as a knocking about in hoodie.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 8:45 am
Posts: 41848
Free Member
 

Gillet and live with wet arms unless it's mid winter and I need the warmth.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 8:49 am
Posts: 11468
Full Member
 

Gore Active Shell is basically Gore admitting that eVent got it right, but with one difference - Active Shell stops working after a wash.

I've washed and reproofed an early GTX Active Shell jackets numerous times now without any loss of waterproofing. It'd be kind of amazing if a company with Gore's reputation for thoroughness brought a fabric to market with such a basic flaw. You'd have thought someone would have noticed it.

Amusingly, people say much the same thing about eVent. Often it's down to either not washing the jacket often enough - dirt/oils screw the DWR - or washing it using the wrong detergents.

I'd say Active Shell and eVent are both as good as it gets, but eVent needs more regular washing and reproofing to keep it happy. NeoShell's good too, but I've never seen a bike-friendly jacket which uses it.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 8:55 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

My GT Oxygen jacket is still waterproof after a few washes. Superb road cut jacket.

Have yet to properly test it but the Alp X Zip Off Jacket using Windstopper Active Shell is very breathable and waterproof too.

Depends on how hot / sweaty you get but a lot of waterproof jackets don't breath enough and you end up soaking from within.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 10:44 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

All this mention of having to wash certain materials often makes me laugh. When I have to wear any waterproof gear, the trails end up muddy...I don't think I've ever wore my jacket and not washed it/had to wash it after a ride.
I suppose it might be different for road bikers and commuters.


 
Posted : 28/08/2012 11:32 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

just bought this to wear over a windproof in dire emergency
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=53855&categoryID=207


 
Posted : 30/08/2012 11:17 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

When the tough gets going and the going gets though! Bontrager eVent Packable Stormshell really does the job in all acounts! (hold what it promis) 100% wind/waterproof and breathable. Perfekt fit (not too slim and tight) Have 4 a year now, in storm, rain and minus 5degrees (with devol or icebreaker and smartwool underneath) and it does the job best, of all jacket i´d tried (...only one pocket though! Live with that, and its the best cycling jacket! Alternative is Haglofs Endo Active shell, is also very nice 4 trekking) Price!! Think about it as an long term investment 4 years. PS! WASH??? have´nt wash´ed it for a year ...why wash? 😉 ...wash it with a warm cloth!


 
Posted : 09/03/2013 7:59 am
Posts: 634
Free Member
 

My 2p....just sent a gore paclite jacket back, terrible breathablity. The inside lining has like a rubbery, plastic coating which just doesn't breath. A cheap windproof, shower proof jacket was betters overall.

What I've learned is that the fabric is not the only factor.. Construction (namely lots of venting options) and application (over layering in damp, mild conditions I.e. user error) are just as important

Following a recent multy day tour where is was soaked within an 1 hour each day with paclite whilst my eVent clad buddy was dry I've just ordered one of [url= http://www.showerspass.com/catalog/men/mens-jackets/elite-21-jacket ]these.[/url] ....will let you all know how it goes.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:48 pm
Posts: 43955
Full Member
 

Paclite only really works well over a mid-layer (like a fleece) than can act as a moisture reservoir. FWIW, the newer GoreTex Active Shell is at least as good as eVent.


 
Posted : 02/06/2013 10:59 pm