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I had a Lynskey R270 until I was knocked off it and it got damaged. It was a great bike but max 28c wheels and no UK distributor now. I did alot of searching and wanted a UK frame if possible. That led me to Enigma and I had a custom Echelon made. I love it. Enigma were great to deal with and put up with my (largely unnecessary) minor tweaks! It'll go up to 35c and is supremely comfortable despite remaining quite racey in feel. We went for a slightly shorter top tube so that I can keep the stem length sensible as I get older and less flexi..
plunked for the enigma etape ultegra.....
👍 A nice uncluttered look.
How long will you have to wait?
jimdubleyou
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@bjj.Andy.w – any idea if you can fit 32s and mudguards on the hurricane?Pictures looks like it might be tight if those are 28s
It’d be tight but doable I’d imagine. I’m running Kinesis Fend Off Road Bike Mudguards that are able to take up to 30mm tyres.
endoverend
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Only one of the Ti road bikes shown above is ‘nice’, all of the others have disc brakes… which aren’t needed on the road and make a Ti framed bike weigh near 20lbs. IMO. YMMV and all that.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. I much prefer the look of a rim braked roadbike and after nearly 500miles on the Hurricane in all weathers I don’t think the discs are a game changer. The only reason I moved over to discs was I was destroying a set of rims every winter (I do a lot of miles in hilly Lancashire) I’m hoping my disc wheelset should last much longer.
endoverend
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Only one of the Ti road bikes shown above is ‘nice’, all of the others have disc brakes… which aren’t needed on the road and make a Ti framed bike weigh near 20lbs.
That’s utter bobbins.
Having owned 5 Ti road/gravel bikes, 2 Litespeed, 1 Kinesis and 2 Planet X, none of them, even the gravel bikes have been over 18lbs and only 1 of them had rim brakes.
My current Litespeed with 40mm tyres and Di2 is 17.4lbs in a large frame size.
Yes, hydraulics are heavier, but they allow for bigger tyres and also lighter rims. My current 30mm deep 30mm wide rims are only 320g.
Enigma Echo owner here as well, had it since 2016, its been faultless, comfy and TBH I can't see myself changing it.
I'm not in the market for a £2.5k bike but still drooling over tha Spa. Like the tyre clearance and wide choice of gearing.
Talking weights my current winter bike for local use is a Spa Steel tourer. I weighed it last week in ready to ride mode with mudguards, rear rack, one small pannier, lock, pump, toolkit, lights, and bell.
17.1kg. Though that is now down 500g after I switched from a suspension seat post (fitted when I was having back problems) to a normal post.
Has anyone ever had a custom frame from Waltly?
Yes, a couple of mine are on the Waltly site - fatbike and 29+. Very easy to deal with in comparison to XACD who I’ve also bought from and the quality of work is better / less workmanlike. Not sure they’re doing one-off custom frames anymore - only for existing customers.
Only one of the Ti road bikes shown above is ‘nice’, all of the others have disc brakes… which aren’t needed on the road
They're not *needed*, but they do brake more consistently in the wet, brake significantly better if you have carbon rims, save rim wear on expensive wheels, allow you to run bigger tyres, don't overheat rims on long descents, don't collect as much crud in winter, play a lot more nicely with mudguards...