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deda 215’s are the old road diameter? the drop is the same as a newton shallow.
personally i would go for a short/shallow wing/compact type bar as being a ‘clydesdale’ you are more likely to use the closer drops then as they won’t be far away.
forget carbon bars, theres loads of good butted light alloy ones to choose from.
Cheers - Newton's more populous/available too
It's a fair cop regarding my previous thread about weight, I was just trying for a bite....It's a nice frame and I'm jealous..
Bars - I always used to get the widest bars I could with a view that I like wide bars on my MTB so surely I'd like them on the road bike. Not true however, recently I've gone narrow again with 42's and they feel much nicer and I don't get the shoulder/neck pain that I did previously on the 44's (that were closer to 46's). Don't bother with carbon unless you're going for a weight weenie build. I like the Syntace stuff, but the Zipp service course stuff is always well regarded.
my MTB bars have gone from 711 to 730, and at the same time my road bike's went from 42 to 40 (I'm quite a slight build).
+ plenty on being meh about carbon bars, huge price increase for negligible benefits.
Interesting TINAS, you've lost 250gm over mine which have 32/32 15/16 guage spokes and a 105 rear hub (I like cheap cassettes!) (and my point you quoted was in reference to the bloke saying it was easy to get a 7.3kg bike then said it was Super Record etc).
I rebuilt my rear with spoke washers.
Probably not the done thing but that dark grey demands tan bar tape- lynch me or kinda agree? 8)
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Either that it perforated black
Not too offensive. You'd need a saddle to match though. It's the law.
Reckon with your wheels though, and assuming back stem, bars and post, I'd stick with black bar tape. Tan tends to go better with chrome finishing kit IMO.
Black or White tape, black or white saddle.
Tan tapes fine but you'll struggle to find a saddle modern enough in Tan, of course you could go down the Brooks route, if you like. If you really want to do that, I doubt it.
Or..
Orange tape/saddle (with orange highlights) will work.
Pink will work too.
Steer clear of green or blue.
Oh- so that'd mean I'd have to have white tape? (I've got a white Spesh saddle that I like).
Sell it. Buy a black one.
yes white tape with white saddle
a lot of the recommends for compact bars (as above) are exactly what you already have with the PX bars so crack on with what you have - spending a lot of money on bars would gain about 60g weight loss, you don't need 'soft' carbon bars because you've just bought a steel frame to solve that job
I have them on my commuter bike, they're good bars
There was a ti railed tan leather charge spoon a while ago (I have one), although I don't think they do them any more.
There's a tan Charge/Fabric Scoop too, but think it has a sky blue base
Here's my charge, but I am thinking of getting rid as I think the tan only works with the chrome kit, as mentioned. The tape is cheap charge stuff as well, which doesn't look great:
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As its leather the shade of the charge could be darkened I reckon with some expert polishing skills...
Interesting TINAS, you've lost 250gm over mine which have 32/32 15/16 guage spokes and a 105 rear hub (I like cheap cassettes!) (and my point you quoted was in reference to the bloke saying it was easy to get a 7.3kg bike then said it was Super Record etc).I rebuilt my rear with spoke washers.
I'll be mostly in the hub, they're scarily light. Although unlike the A2Z on my MTB when I took them appart there's nothing scary about them, they're just very simple/minimal. Whereas the A2Z I suspect will break it's axle at some point as it's not well suppourted.
I used washers and plenty of grease as they're the original Alphas with less material in the spoke bead.
That build's DA 7800 shifters/mechs, PX brakes, FSA SL-K chainset, carbon post, ritchey WCS alloy bars and stem, so not budget either (but not super-record!), but the groupset was bought 2nd hand. Just proves that a build nudging the UCI weight limit is possible without breaking the bank, and most of the 2nd hand bits would be even cheaper now than when I bough them.
Here you go - my seat of choice, Charge Knife, in a fetching brown with ti rails at a truly bargain price... http://www.rutlandcycling.com/280813/products/charge-knife-saddle.aspx
Let the building commence.
Allow circa 25mm ontop of the stem depth for above/below spacers then chop down again when sure?
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Na, man through and slam it. This is your 3rd road bike, you're an experienced roadie now...
Sod that yet- +15mm?
The forks are crazy light. The frame unwrapped and the most ultra-accurate hand-heft test- I didn't think 'thats heavy' just 'its lighter than what I thought'.
Id leave more than that tbh i tend to leave at least 50mm plus stem and trim later as its much harder to trim small amounts later i find and its gives more room to play with
Looks nice i do love the red white and blue ritchey bikes tho
Trevor Jarvis, Flying Gate
hora - 25mm on top of stemmf - slam it
hora - 15mm
😆 peer pressure susceptibility 100% 😆
what's the frame weigh?...
(not that i'm tempted, oh no)
Officially 3.9lb- I dont think it is. It feels lighter. Handscales say 3.2lb 😆
It feels as light as the Rocky Mountain Vertex frame that I owned years ago.
Please don't do an ugly build on that frame. It deserves to be beautiful!
All black 6800 Ultegra and Ultegra wheels and black tape?
The only fly in the ointment is my Spesh Phenom saddle is... white.
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Personally I'd go with all black finishing kit, Ultegra to match the frame and I would get tape and seat to match the colour of one of the stripes on the frame as far as possible. I realise that is controversial, but I like a bit of colour and it would all coordinate beautifully. 🙂
Some of the Ritchey classic finishing kit might be nice.
Love the way My 'I don't care' Hora is being slowly assimilated into the 'build a pretty road bike with matching saddle and tape' orthodoxy. You'll be a slave to The Rules next...
Don't let them grind you down, Hora: rock it out with a pink saddle, tan bar-tape and humungous flared bars. Fit mud-guards and stack of stems. Wear non-matching socks and baggies and parade your helmet peak with pride. We're rooting for you here in road bike Uglyville.
Please don't do an ugly build on that frame. It deserves to be beautiful!
Diddums... it's not like it's your bike is it? 😉
Something about the newer Shimano chain sets look a bit rubbish with thinner steel tubes...
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SRAM or Campag look a lot better...
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Bin the old finishing kit too and get some nice WCS.
Also I reckon [url= http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/shop/ambrosio-nemesis/ ]these Ambrosio Nemesis wheels[/url] from a different thread would be ideal 🙂
I'm more concerned at wrapping the bars properly! I've only ever wrapped one set of bars before (track commuter).
Bar wrapping... loads of videos on youtube of how to do it properly.
Ambrisio Nemesis rims? Can you imagine [i]hora[/i] with tubs?
Reminds me, I must get round to finishing off Aquaseal-ing my Dugast tubs on Record/ Nemesis before Battle on the Beach.
Where did you get the Frame from Hora?
Acycles in France. DONT try Shiny bikes.
I'd leave at least 25mm steerer showing then fit the stem, bars and go ride. You'll be suprised at the difference from your old bike.. Plus when you do cut the steerer down you'll have enough to play with. Don't slam it yet, give it about 10 rides before you get the hacksaw to it.
Bar tape, peasy, GCN has some great vids on "how to.."
I'd at least try and match the tape with the saddle, if your saddle is white then spend £15 and get some white tape too.
Finishing kit?
You'll figure out what works well/budget constraints soon enough.
Just build it, post pics, then ride it..
aP (sorry Hora) my tubs have been glued on and unused for over a year. Tyres are fine, but do you reckon I should re glue them?
Just build it, post pics, then [s]ride[/s] sell it..
I believe you have my email.
FOURHUNDRED!! 😆
That does sound a fair price Gary_C 🙂
Arione black and white saddle and Fizik whiter logo bartape would look great on that frame. Oh, I have a frame the same colour - see commuting bikes. White picks out the Ritchey logo.
Hora - in the event you get buyer's remorse, 'Cyclist' magazine did a review of the Ritchey frame you just bought some time last year (built up with Campy Record). I will have a look at which issue it was in, but to summarise, they said it was a fabulous frame, built for racing in mind, fast, responsive and very stiff. They did say it gave a slightly harsh ride as a result, but that they didn't mind this because it was an out and out race bike. They also said they would be happpy racing it as such.
Frame weight was quoted as 1.79kg.
Always loved the Ritchey seat cluster.
Cant link image from phonw but first impression, I found the stem slammed and stem reversed alot better. Seat could be a smidge higher but it feels GOOD.
The 'racey' comment ^ either I prefer the racey feel or the Ritchey frame ain't race-geo. If I'm wrong I'll be amazed 😀
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It needs a wipe (my hands were abit oily)