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[Closed] What light compliant steel frame for all day rides to 140-150mm

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Kinesis Decade Virsa - the mk 2 frame.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 7:09 pm
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I'm very happy with the MK2 Piglet I recently built up.
Found it to handle as well as if not better than the C456 it replaced yet definitely more comfortable.
The finish on the current Ragley frames is nicer than previous ones too and with ISCG05, 44mm headtube and excellent mud clearance make a very versatile frame and at 300 notes good value too in comparison to others mentioned.
I've not bothered to weigh the bike or the frame when building but I can weigh one tomorrow if your interested.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 7:21 pm
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[i]You're basically after a lightweight sledgehammer - correct? [/i]

To give hora a bit of credit, I know what he means. I use a Chameleon with 140mm thors, and as much strong/lightweight kit as I can afford and it's a rocket ship, and it'd be even more of a rocket ship if it was a few pounds lighter. I was looking at (and rode a couple of ) FS: a Blur and a Lapeierre thing that the LBS recommended; both weren't nearly as much fun as my Cham and the French thing was frankly disengaging.

I'd like a Carbon Cham but Santa Cruz won't make one. (I've asked)

Bastards, they actually don't want me to have fun... 👿


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 7:23 pm
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Pipedream Scion 853?
Have one for sale if you're interested? (...cheeky)


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 7:55 pm
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A lighter medium old Chameleon?

Twistier/more fun than anything on two wheels FACT


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 8:15 pm
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Do the right thing....get a Ragley! Either Piglet or Blue Pig flavours. I ride the latter and it's awesome.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 8:19 pm
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Observing this with interest.

"Strong, light, cheap. Pick any two"

Springs to mind 😉


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 8:29 pm
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@ anotherstan...rated for 90 - 130mm forks. Shame! 😀


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 8:30 pm
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The mk2 steel slackline is due out soon with 31.6mm seat tube and 44mm headtube so opens up the options on the fork and dropper post front. I've got a ti slackline and 2 rides in I can confirm the geometry to be pretty damn spot on with a fox 36 spaced down to 140mm (same a-c as a 150mm 32 or 34 I believe), mine had a baptism of fire at Gawton on Sunday then a xc ride on the coast on some nice singletrack this morning, so far so very good 🙂


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 8:56 pm
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What about a Genesis Alptitude if you can find one, they were rated to 160mm IIRC and were only a shade over the 5lb mark.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 9:05 pm
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Anyone know what the BB drop on a Slackline is? BB height is such a random measurement as it varies with tyre size.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 9:46 pm
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No offence meant on the Alpine but I found it tall/leaned fwd feeling angles? For me. Plus it comes alive for supa-fast riding. That aint me 😆 8)


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 9:49 pm
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Oh dear lord..............as in my last post
29er.
Or
650
B
You tried either.......whole new world out there of not quite correct for you frames........
Or
Are you overbiked?

Try something that is designed for you not a marketing dream.....


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:19 pm
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Oh I do enjoy a Hora "What Frame?" thread. 😉


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:37 pm
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Vondally you contradicted yourself in one post seeing how haymarket-type mags are the ones pushing the new wheelsizes on us.

No ta. I've got decent 26er wheels, tyres etc.

I dont follow advertising. If I did I'd be wearing a Urge helmet etc etc


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:42 pm
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LOL hora.....irony lost in translation there
Me I like my 29er and my yeti 7 both are comprises t
Choose a bike for your riding and enjoyment, be comfortable with a compromise
Alpine to tall and forward to you me scared me to death but loved it alas wrecked my neck and back
Santa cruz blur...you did not like that me enjoyed it but pastures new called aka yeti asr7
Just be honest with what you need...be patient as well
Enjoy the new frame....Do tell us what you get

Ps love my urge enduring doesn't hurt mt prolapsed disc in my neck......that gawd for marketing


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 10:59 pm
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[quote=Coyote ]Oh I do enjoy a Hora "What Frame?" thread.
I'm sure STW towers does too.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:01 pm
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I dont follow advertising. If I did I'd be wearing a Urge helmet etc etc

We will pay to see you attempt this.


 
Posted : 28/05/2013 11:02 pm
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BWD If we are 'stretching' I wonder how much progressive is asking for Brodie ti holeshots


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 6:25 am
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[url= http://kingdombike.co.uk/en/titanium_bike/brigante ]Customisable Ti goodness from Kingdom[/url]... at a price though 8)


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 7:35 am
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If you are stretching then maybe throw Chromag into the fray? Just wondering how i can squeeze a Dekerf welded Surface past the other half......


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 7:52 am
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Hora,
You looked in the classifieds?
There's someone selling a Ti456 for £500.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 8:00 am
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Soul or similar plus adjustable forks.
Nimble and 150 mom forks isn't happening.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 8:01 am
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If you are stretching then maybe throw Chromag into the fray?

Oooo..
http://www.chromagbikes.com/frames/kamui


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 8:05 am
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If you can't afford Ti, you can't afford a Chromag...... 😉

Anyway, you've already looked...

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/chromag-kamui-any-owners


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 10:06 am
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Maybe check out the production privee shan. If you're after a medium then it's just over 5lb and its specifically designed for 150-160mm.

I tried one last month and its convinced me to get rid of my soul, my new shan arrives in June


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:03 pm
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[i] If you're after a medium then it's just over 5lb [/i]

He's over 6 foot and looking for all-day comfort - the last thing he needs is another frame that is too small/short.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:05 pm
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b r my back doesn't like long stretched out to bars feel. I need to be sat more up right. The all day comfort comes from not lugging a heavy bike around and being hit hard up the back by a stiff rear end (oo-eerr)

I tried one last month
Where??

The stylings abit 'erm, unusual for me'- but it looks a good shape.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:08 pm
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Lower the fork and you'll open up a wider range of frames. Plus it'll just ride better with the fork at a proper height anyway.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:11 pm
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Hora,

Tried it with a guy from http://zulubikes.co.uk/ - only place you can get it, unless you fancy going to France!


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:30 pm
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I may come to regret this, but do you want to try my P7? Its a medium so its perfect/too small for you. Its running 140 up front. Heavier than some, but be honest. if you're that bothered about weight, then lay off the pies

And you've had a Sanderson Life. I seem to recall it didn't make the end of its second week. Had you forgotten? 😉

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Posted : 29/05/2013 2:40 pm
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Binners- tried one on a ride, swapped off a Chameleon to a P7. The Chameleon was better.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 2:43 pm
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Thats not a fair comparison though. The Chameleon is a better bike for certain things. But about as compliant as a rail bridge. You can't compare the two. I've had my P7 for 18 months, and its eclipsed the Chameleon as my favourite hardtail. It really is a perfect do-it-all, all day bike!

A chameleon after a full day in the saddle will leave you feeling live you've had some kind of Rohypnol and GBH fuelled experience after Cruz 101. Actually.... is that what you're really after?

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Posted : 29/05/2013 3:00 pm
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some kind of Rohypnol and GBH fuelled experience after Cruz 101. Actually.... is that what you're really after?

😆


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 3:03 pm
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A chameleon after a full day in the saddle will leave you feeling live you've had some kind of Rohypnol and GBH fuelled experience after Cruz 101. Actually.... is that what you're really after?

The equivalent of a sex-saddle in a gay sauna? 😆


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 3:03 pm
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Cham's aren't [i]that[/i] bad, I've ridden mine on all day Welsh epics, and the following day I could walk, ohhhh at least 4-5 steps easily before having to sit down again 😉


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 3:16 pm
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2nd hand Ti456?

That's what I got (original Lynskey one off this here site) and it is rather lovely and very light built up.


 
Posted : 29/05/2013 3:39 pm
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Large cotic soul. Ran it for years with Revs spaced to 140, no issues, even on steep climbs. Just so happens I have one for sale too, mucho cheapness mon ami!,


 
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