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Alas, in cleaning it I've discovered the rear triangle is held to the frame at the seat stay by mud and luck...

I ruddy love that frame; cheap, cheerful, fast, and light...
I'm on the hunt for a direct replacement (v2, medium, any colour!) but failing that, what should I consider?

It's my xc race bike, bike packing beast, and general go-to bike.

I'd love something super fancy (air9 etc) but alas, I think cost prohibits that!!

Options? I run 80mm rebas - too feeble for rigid...!

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Damn, I still regret selling that frame but I think you got far more use out of it than I ever would have 🙁

Hope you find something suitable as a replacement.


 
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Refund due? Dodgy goods etc etc 😉

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Santa Cruz Highball?


 
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Take a punt at a Chinese frame direct with the 20% off Ebay code that runs until 2200BST tonight?


 
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Trek Superfly ss frameset. 650 frame and forks - bloody lovely (if you can get one). Great xc geo, light.


 
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Scandal V2 was one of the only frames I wish i never sold.

No help here OP, sorry.


 
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^ I considered but some US forum complaints about the dropouts in real life use? Have you got one?


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 4:42 pm
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I was out on my Scandal last night, v2 large 29er. 16 mile ride, about 10 on road, the rest bridleway/green lane/footpath/common/woods. Set up with 100mm reba, xt 2x10, light(ish) wheels, 2.2 X King's - what a bike, perfect for that job, fast, handles well, light, ridiculously good for the money, I honestly don't know what I'd replace the frame with.

There's usually a Santa Cruz XC 29er frame or two knocking about on classifieds/pinkbike.

The only XC type thing I lust after is a carbon framed lefty equipped Cannondale, but I'd be no faster really, and £2k worse off!


 
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^ I considered but some US forum complaints about the dropouts in real life use? Have you got one?

Yep, not had any problems. You do need a 22mm (I think) spanner to move dropouts but they are solid. Stache comes with the same dropouts so parts interchangeable .


 
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The new Ramin coming out has an ebb I think.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 6:35 pm
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Niner Sir9
in that way you can keep the Rebas.
my colleague has one and has never been happier(setup with a Lefty/Lauf/Travers Prong fork depending on the mood). I was on the verge to buy a frame myself!
Niner just changed the colour scheme to gray but you might be able to get a 2015 version in red, green-yellow or white.


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 6:56 pm
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hmmm. nine'undred quid for the SIR9....

Will hunt ebay!

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I don't know what size you are but someone was selling a Curtis xc9 on the classifieds recently if steel is an option.

Edit sorry, forgot about ss bit.


 
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There is a medium yeti big top frame on eBay - not that popular but I like mine. I have the ss dropouts - they were an eye-watering purchase


 
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Get it fixed?


 
Posted : 31/03/2016 8:07 pm
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i was looking into getting it fixed..it's not my area of expertise, but seems to be either:complicated and pricey (re-heat treating..??) or easy and doomed to fail...

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When mine broke last year (chainstay worn through by mud on a 2.3 Smorgasbord) I went for an Inbred. It's OK. Nothing more than that 😕


 
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There was a santa cruz highball kicking around here recently- I think the only thing that wouldn't carry across would be the seatpost. Tensionable dropouts are about 40 quid iirc.


 
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Had mine welded by Vernon Barker in Sheffield.
He reckoned there was no need for heat treating afterwards, and it's still going strong a year later.

'Twas only £50 too.

APF


 
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[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-santa-cruz-highball-29er-frame-with-extras ]This one[/url]. If you buy it won't be tempting to me! Less money and I'd probably already have it.

Droput are [url= http://www.jungleproducts.co.uk/shop/product/singlespeed-swinger-dropouts/367/ ]here[/url]


 
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i've emailed for more pics.....
Let's see how the QOF year goes eh..!

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Find another Scandal. Nothing compares IMO.

The only thing better that I've found is the Ragley TD-1 and good luck finding one of those.


 
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I have a Mk 1 Scanny 18" if you want it not looking for a lot of money at all. It was just to small for me.


 
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Try a Superfly 🙂


 
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I bought my Mk 2 Scandal as a stopgap while waiting for the Highball to come out, and never got round to buying the Santa. One thing that's made a big impression on me is the forward centre on the Scandal. I have a Whyte 129 as a second bike, and the difference of 15mm in the rear triangle is quite noticable - not something I ever expected to notice, but it's slightly ruined the Scandal for me, and it was my only mountain bike for over a year, and most definitely a great bike.
One thing that's worth noting is that the SC's top tube is a lot shorter - certainly on the first gen Highballs. That said, a friend has run a Highball for a long time and loves his, and the SS dropout is a thing of beauty.
Check the geometry charts (I think I have both the Mk2 Scandal and the original Highball somewhere) to make sure you're getting a like for like.


 
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Whereas a Superfly has a nice long ett ... (I'll shut up now!). 😀

[url= http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/cross-country-mountain-bikes/superfly/superfly-ss/p/2075400-2016 ]Superfly ss[/url]


 
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zomg, Clink. That is a sexy bicycle.


 
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Just occasionally STW is really, really good. I hadn't realised how short the Highball was.

The Superfly does look very good - only thing and it's minor is what BB? PF30?


 
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double post


 
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DrP
I am looking to sell my Niner (SiR9). It's set up as a SS at the moment but I have the rear mech hangar if you ever wanted to run it 1x9/10. It also has Rebas (dual air) but I also have the Niner rigid forks. Colour - red. Size 17.5 (I'm 183cm/6ft and it fits me like a glove). I agree with Goss (posted 3 days ago), it is the best bike I've ever owned but I haven't used it for 2 years and so is gathering dust in the house which is a crying shame. I raced the 12 hour solo event at Newcastleton in 2012 and it helped me through to a very credible 5th in class (SS). Let me know on here or bell me on 07763 147413 if you want more info. 🙂
Rich


 
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I currently ride a Reynolds 520 tubed Genesis High Latitude 29er singlespeed (was alfine) which I can recommend. My only complaint is the weight. I use it for xc and singletrack but my wheels tend to stay grounded. I am looking to replace it with something of similar geometry and comfort but lighter - yet to find anything though.


 
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I am looking to replace it with something of similar geometry and comfort but lighter - yet to find anything though.

I'll say it again - Trek Superfly ss 😆


 
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Similar problem faced me a while ago - I ended up on a Salsa El Marachii as I wanted the longer feel of the Scandal. I love it, steel one, but would really love the Ti one to drop some weight off it. Not that it's too porky TBH.

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Nice El Mariachi. I was looking at the Ti but it's out of production - now looking at the Lynskey Ridgeline.


 
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So DrP, what did you get in the end?


 
Posted : 28/08/2016 10:23 pm
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I got the cracked frame welded up again 🙂
AND... Found another medium scandal on here, so bought that too... Just realised it's such a great, good value frame, with a certain 'je ne sais pas' to it!

Currently riding the 'new' frame as ss (big bike bash) and leant the older one, and some forks, to a mate to also ride here!!!

Can't keep a good scandal down!!

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Good to hear 😀

Had my V2 29er from new and, whilst other frames have tempted me (Sonder frames currently causing my eye to wander), i just don't feel its worth selling the Scandal.

Its the versatility of the frame to match my current cycling preference: had it first in standard 100mm fork XC mode, then went a bit more trail bike (100-130 dual position forks, dropper etc) and now its gone back completely the other way to a sort of 29er cross: fully rigid with 1.75" tyres and salsa bend 2 bars...loving the speed. Great frames


 
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If you like On-ONe, how does their Parkwood compare to a Scandal? It seems to be their current aluminium 29er model (there's a titanium Titus Fireline for £610 which looks pretty swish).


 
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^ good news! Sorry to miss BBB this year 🙁


 
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I replaced my Scandal 29er with a steel 29er Inbred which I rode for a year then gave up with it as too heavy and harsh to ride. Got a Parkwood 29er which I like a lot better. Not quite up there with the Scandal but that might be nostalgia mostly. Medium Inbred frame going spare now.


 
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The parkwood is more 'trail' by the looks of the geometry...
Different bike imo, not a replacement.

DrP


 
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Holy thread resurrection.

My Mk 2 Scandal's still going strong, but I have my eye on a Salsa Timberjack, so if anyone's shopping around, I'd say these are possibly worth a look, too. I have no idea if they'll ever make it over to this side of the pond, but they will take a 650b+ wheel as well as 29er (so oodles of mud clearance as a 29er, and you can try clown shoes, too) and can do a front mech into the bargain. Internal routing, which you'll either love or hate, and internal dropper routing, too. Sells (when it can be found ) for $399 in the US. It's also possible to get both Boost, 142x12 and 135x10 Alternator plates.

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