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Indeed we have.

wonderfully seat seat tube still, because IMO, slack and long doesn't work properly without this.

I assume this was meant to say something regarding a steep seat angle and yes, imo you're quite right. Being sat more upright on a climb puts you in a much more natural position and whilst it was a weird 'what's different here' sensation at first it is definitely another improvement in bike geo.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:09 pm
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You're quite right. Fat fingers on a rained on smart phone do not make for good grammar or spelling!


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:48 pm
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god I want a G 13. doing a bit of saving for a 'Dream build' next april and the G 13 is right at the top of my list.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:57 pm
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I'd definitely want to try the Oranges, the old Five 29 was the best bike they've ever made- the soul of a Five and the capability of an Alpine. I testrode it on glentress red and fort william dh, not many bikes that can really shine at both. Still the only bike I've ridden that competes with the Remedy (I'm asssuming the Fuel Ex and Slash both beat it fwiw, they ought to anyway). It did pedal exactly like it has a hinge in the middle, because it does, but I didn't care that much- climb switch ftw. So hopefully the new ones build on that. (the Gyro was shite though so you never know)


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 1:00 pm
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Not that I need a new bike, but I'll hopefully get a test ride on a G13 at Ard Rock this year if Mojo are in attendance again.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 1:29 pm
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Hi,

I don't have a 29er FS so not too much to add other than I think your mendip based and I know that independent bike co in Weston can supply the orange stages and also has Nicolai bikes in stock. I quite like the look of the Starling murmur it got a good write up and is Bristol based which could be good for demos etc


 
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Erm, yes so I'm building this up at the moment ....

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Just as a little experiment really.

It seems well made and on first thoughts isn't as short feeling as I'd expected.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 4:05 pm
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A friend has an Evil Wreckoning and loves it. Its biggest problem he finds is that your have to go scary fast to get it to work properly because its so sorted. He doing the Trans Provence on it


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 4:43 pm
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Transition Smuggler, because handling>travel . I'm over 13 stone and love mine.

Its biggest problem he finds is that your have to go scary fast to get it to work properly because its so sorted

Not sure that's my definition of sorted!

I own a Yeti SB4.5c and I'm seriously impressed with the bike and how it rides. Especially with 114mm rear suspension. Granted, the bigger, square hits are felt but generally it feels like it has more travel. Paired with 140mm up front it's a bloody quick bike.

Therefore I imagine the SB5.5c is completely bonkers.

want. both.


 
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Mega


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 6:29 pm
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Thanks for the extra suggestions. I will never buy another orange after some pretty shabby treatment 10 years ago, plus, their chain growth characteristics are exactly what I don't want!

I'll be making some banshee enquiries pretty soon.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:14 pm
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I think the Prime would be a great choice, I was on the verge of ordering one when Pat at Ison (great to deal with BTW, answered all my stupid questions really quickly) told me there wouldn't be any raw XLs in the country this year. That combined with having to wait a bit plus a few hundred quid price difference made me go for the Trek.

Not regretted my choice at all (except for the bike snob bit same as Hob Nob, I'd rather have a Banshee than a Trek). I'm aware Hob Nob is faster than I'll ever be but his summary pretty much nails the Trek. Great angles, does feel a bit short on travel when really moving over rough ground but still tracks true through it. Talk of changing the shock stroke to give 138mm travel certainly has my attention.

Stiff as you like but if you're pottering around it just feels like a competent bike. When you're feeling it and put some effort into riding it then it is properly rapid, the more aggro you are with body English the more it seems to like it!

Had a carbon Stumpy in between the Sultan and this but agree with what you said about it SO, the stiff carbon front end felt mismatched with the slightly twangy rear when pushing on. Plus it had the world's longest headtube. I like a high front end but this was ridiculous, it never turned all that well. Thought the Sultan was a much better bike.

The Fuel is better than both. Doesn't pedal quite as well as the DW Turner but not far off. Seat tube could do with being steeper despite what the effective figure says. Other than that it is properly awesome


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:46 pm
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I ride a slash 9.9. If the shock is set up correctly it can be very playful. However, I've only just got mine to that point.

I've done quite a bit of riding on a Hightower recently and it's very very good indeed. If you're not restricted by budget I've definitely have a look at them and maybe try to get a good ride on one. There are some on hire fleets in the tweed valley.


 
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I'm actually debating whether I need another FS right now, but I'm intending to trial a Rocketmax and Flaremax towards the end of summer if I decide I do.

If, after deciding I can't actually live in a world without rear squish I decide I don't like either enough to commit then it gets interesting and I'll be remembering some of what's up there! 🙂


 
Posted : 10/06/2017 1:49 am
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For those with treks what length forks are you running?


 
Posted : 10/06/2017 7:33 pm
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140 Ohlins on the fuel. Wouldn't want to run 130s that come with the 27.5 version, BB is low enough as it is. Reckon the frame could easily take 150s


 
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Hmm. *Stokes chin*


 
Posted : 10/06/2017 8:21 pm
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Nicholai G 16 2017 can be built up as 29 er, 27.5, (155mm rear 175mm rear), or 29 front 27.5 back ( which apparently you would have to prize out of Chris Porters hands!!) Chainline (see below) also rates the 29/27.5 very highly.

look for long discussion (37 page ) on STW and contact "chainline" re options set ups etc, and can organise a demo

can be built light with non piggy back shock, and 34 s or Burly with X2 and 36s

Unique, rare, alloy and until you have ridden one then it is impossible to imagine how competent they are.

Cockpit will be as you want it seated, but the reach and front centre give one a very centralised position for descending, which until you get used to it is slightly strange.

The seat tubes are relatively short, so long droppers can be used, at 5,10" I would ride a longer ( as a true 18 inch 460mm seat tube bike for me is almost too long to run a 150 reverb), 502 reach, but I think Chainline (same height) now rides an longest or even extra longest.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 11:16 am
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I recently bought a Whyte T129 and although I've only been on it a handful of times so far, I think it's absolutely blinding. For what I paid for it (Winstanleys) it's even better.

Sure, the rear tyre clearance isn't brilliant, but I reckon you'd get a 2.3" in there just about and the bars are awkward with their funny backsweep and low rise. The stock rear tyre is also rubbish. However, a 30mm rise Renthal and a decent rear tyre later and the bike rips.

I'm well out of practice but initial rides have seen me ride familiar sections at PB pace and although the travel is modest (120mm) the geometry makes up for that. There isn't anything I've ridden on previous 160mm 27.5 bikes that I wouldn't ride the Whyte on (natural trails in N.Wales, Eastridge, Revolution, Antur Stiniog, Coed Y Brenin).

Having previously owned an Enduro 29er the Whyte blows that away in terms of its sizing, geometry and efficiency. That said my Enduro was a 2014 model so the new one may be different.

I really like the look of the new S150 but would be tempted, if I felt the need for something more aggressive, to either fit some offset bushings and/or put a longer shaft in the Yari to take it up to 130-140mm.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 3:21 pm
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For those with treks what length forks are you running?

I have a 140mm F34 on mine, which is about to come off - I am actually putting something a little more beefy on there, as I don't think the 34 is enjoying it's life, so will go on the hardtail i'm building.

I appreciate however my bike is possibly being used outside of it's intended spectrum however 🙂

If you want something a big longer, but still short travel, the Nicolai is probably a good option. It's not my bag for a few reasons, but others like them.


 
Posted : 12/06/2017 3:42 pm
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dartmoor bluebird?


 
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Posted : 13/06/2017 11:25 am
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140 Ohlins on the fuel. Wouldn't want to run 130s that come with the 27.5 version, BB is low enough as it is. Reckon the frame could easily take 150s

How did you get round the different lower headset bearing?


 
Posted : 13/06/2017 11:33 am
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Cane Creek do a compatible bearing with an inner profile to sit on the CSU, LBS got me the stainless one for about £35 I think. Figured would be worth the extra over the standard £20 one because of the lack of sealing with the Ohlins crown. That said not sure how much sealing benefit a crown race gives but hey ho.


 
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I'd have said Pole Evolink as well..


 
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