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Thanks, CFH. That ^^^ made for a hypnotic start to my Sunday morning 🙂
Ton, it's hard to go wrong with an Ogre. I've used mine for longs rides, messing about on trails and even doing the shopping with a trailer.
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Tallman.. I like your trailer.... what is it?
It's a [url= http://www.carryfreedom.com/project/the-y-large/ ]Carry Freedom Y- Frame Trailer[/url]
The 20" wheeled version.
It's very handy and takes up very little room in the shed, due to the quick release wheels.
If I was planning doing more touring I'd build up my old Inbred slotted 29er on big apples and some basic reliable kit.
An important aspect of a touring bike for me is not having to constantly worry about my 4K bike when parking it outside a pub or shop. A relatively cheap bike adds to the relaxation of a tour IMO.
And as for choosing a touring bike based on what it looks like in a picture on the internet, that's the ****iest advice ever. I host a fair few warmshowers tourers, any properly used touring bike is never going to be pretty with all the useful crap that ends up attached to it. Leave the slammed stems and clean lines to the strava/keyboard warrior crew.
How about something from Thorn?