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After the most hilarious post in a while from PMK we now have Emanuel with the most incomprehensible post in a long time, this thread delivers.
After the most hilarious post in a while from PMK we now have Emanuel with the most incomprehensible post in a long time, this thread delivers.
I do believe kaesae has a rival!
i'm just quoting.
Besides,it's not easy to write so damn well.
and it is written well.read it.
so.[url= http://captaintbag.tumblr.com/page/22 ]more where that came from[/url]
besides,he knows his shit.
I struggle with long sentences
There's a huge difference, if there weren't there'd be far more top riders - the domestique's aren't doing it out of a sense of duty, if they could win they would.
2 mountains and 2 TT's? out of 21 stages? Not a huge difference between winning and coming mid-pack. Look at it the other way, if Froome had punctured again and lost another 2min he'd have been "the second brit in the top ten" rather than 2nd overall, if he'd (or Wiggo) had not been nursed back to the front after almost blowing up they'd have been well and trully mid pack.
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soobalias - Memberive no problem with doping, but anyone caught referring to a rider as Froome-Dog should be banned from talking about the sport.
same rules for Bertie, Spartacus et Al.
Would that be a two year ban? If so, can I apply to the STW moderator to have it applied retrospectively and have any forum comments I made the last 18 months disregarded/deleted, thus being able to rejoin the conversation in 6 months time?
Fair enough, you've got me there, but 80th in the tour, then 34th in the giro, then two years off, 2nd in the Vuelta and 2nd in the tour...
I could also point out that 34th in a GT is rather better than mid-pack - isn't that higher up the GC than Boardman ever managed, and he was trying and had aspirations to be a contender at one point (and even managed podiums in some of the classic 1 week races)?
2 mountains and 2 TT's? out of 21 stages? Not a huge difference between winning and coming mid-pack. Look at it the other way, if Froome had punctured again and lost another 2min he'd have been "the second brit in the top ten" rather than 2nd overall, if he'd (or Wiggo) had not been nursed back to the front after almost blowing up they'd have been well and trully mid pack.
There's not a massive time difference, but the majority of the domestiques aren't suffering punctures or whatever on a regular basis, yet the most they can realistically hope for during their careers is perhaps a stage win. For whatever reason (and of course that might include an aversion to doping) they're just not competitive at the top level. Which is why as soon as a Froome or Cobo turns up people start to cry drugs.
Guilty of doping? Remorse or not you'll always be a doper
Similar to how cynical always trolls the opposite view to everyone else
I feel a bit sad that both the Dopers and Al have to resort to this to get results/massage their inflated egos.
http://captaintbag.tumblr.com/post/27063552289/expert-analysis-froome-another-planet
http://captaintbag.tumblr.com/post/24770057419/brad-wiggins-sky-doping-recap
froome's tenerific form
http://captaintbag.tumblr.com/post/26773366976/bradwiggins-its-not-you-brad-its-geert
no true blooded (ha.funny that,given the context) englishman could ever dope
smell the coffee.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/11/dave-brailsford-team-sky
it's not hard to piece together the simple fact that dope use is rife.
be they johnny foreigners or full blooded (ha,funny, given the context) englishmen.
the clean now ruse
there a fugg lot uv people whod say
if yer clean now
what the shit does it matter youve dunnin the past
?
what these people ignore
is that
while the dope mightuv gone away
the experience
the contacts
the exposure
and
the other side benefits you fuggin got
uv racing
at a level youd a otherwise never a fuggin reached
does not
its still there
even after the super human physiology is not
which
all other things bein the fugg equal
gives you an advantage because you doped
now the equalizer
might fuggin be
that yer dope history
be fuggin undesirable
but unless your a balled dick namrd schumacher
seems like
thata aint exactly the fugginncase
if english is your first language and you have a problem understanding this,well...
read it here
http://pvcycling.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/new-offering-taintbag-translation-service/
there was a thread done [url= http://forums.cyclingweekly.co.uk/showthread.php?12381-Gert-Leinders-Sky-s-Team-Dr-Has-an-quot-Interesting-quot-History.&s=e43e652a5576c730957defe016eee3a2 ]here[/url]
reading it now.
Sky play a blinder with the patrotism nonsense. That doesnt wash for me. There a multi national team with a multi national corprorate sponsor . Its a business,and it should be subject to as much rigorous sceptisism as any other.
exactly.(quote from page2 of the thread I posted above).
what was it that dr johnson said?
patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels.
and bierce (the devil's dict-great book) adds,
it's probably the first.
how can you pay so much attention to someone (captain bag) who writes in such a profoundly illegible fashion? you have to read it three times - once to translate, a second time to work out what he has said and a third to try and work out if it's not just idle bollocks. which it is.
how can you pay so much attention to someone (captain bag) who writes in such a profoundly illegible fashion?
It helps if you're a doper, I imagine.
I find it perfectly clear.first time round.
come on,you can't tell me riis gave back all he'd earned after he cried and admitted his guilt on danish tv,for example.or that contador's mother really did die,as he swore on her life.or that miracles do happen if you believe in them.I could go on.
the thread on cyclingweekly was good as well.
this one was a bit shite.
ISNRATFS
(I'm Still Not Reading All That Fuggin Excremenet)
So some of you are saying Froome dopes... which means Wiggo must dope and Cav and pretty much the whole Sky team, due to the commercial pressures put on them.
As we all know the Sky team is run by the same people that run the GB track team, so it follows that they must all dope as well, and the dope they are using must be amazing, as not one of them tested positive after winning medals at the Olympics a couple of weeks ago.
Either that, or all of that lottery funding is actually producing results.... nah, that can't be it.
The Giro is a 2nd rate race?
The Giro [u]del Capo[/u] sure is. That's the one that Froome came in 2nd in 2008. Not to be confused with the Giro [u]d'Italia[/u].
I'm not suggesting he's doping, rather setting the facts straight.
So some of you are saying Froome dopes... which means Wiggo must dope and Cav and pretty much the whole Sky team, due to the commercial pressures put on them.
Don't think anyone's said that Froome dopes, and even if they did to assume that one doper means the whole team is doping... in fact, what's been said is the complete opposite - we accept that Froome's clean, and has gone from nobody to Tour/Vuelta GC contender, why shouldn't Cobo be afforded the same benefit of the doubt?
perhaps everyone else has stopped doping, meaning that those with true clean talent - e.g. Froome - are automatically elevated in the ranks.
I'm not suggesting he's doping, rather setting the facts straight.
If only you were. I was actually referring to the Giro d'Italia (commonly abbreviated to "Giro"), a race which as mentioned above he finished 34th in - a position rather better than "mid pack".
how can you pay so much attention to someone (captain bag) who writes in such a profoundly illegible fashion? you have to read it three times - once to translate, a second time to work out what he has said and a third to try and work out if it's not just idle bollocks. which it is.
I'm impressed you even went to the effort of working out where emanuel got that lot from (I'm assuming that's what you're referring to - you seem to have neglected to quote his whole post). I just decided it was best to ignore the whole lot.
I thought the comments might be coming from a position of knowledge and was intrigued as to why emanuel found him worth both quoting and referencing. I'm none the wiser for my efforts.
Never mind the Spanish riders, the fans on yesterdays stage must be on something 😯 they were nuts quite a few nearly ran into the riders, they get far to close.
Don't think anyone's said that Froome dopes
Maybe I should have said 'implied' .
Perhaps I'm reading it wrong, but there are some pretty clear indications that people think Chris Froome has progressed way too fast in the past few years.
Fair enough, you've got me there, but 80th in the tour, then 34th in the giro, then two years off, 2nd in the Vuelta and 2nd in the tour...
Don't forget in the recent races he was there to cover Wiggins so he's not really had to do the domestiques role. In previous years he would have been going back to the car for bottles, lashing himself to chase down breakaways etc. - really easy to bury yourself for 100kms and roll in 10 minutes down after being spent 20kms from the finish. Add that up a couple of times and suddenly you're 80th instead of 2nd.
Maybe the rest has been good for him - got some solid training in instead of doing races everywhere for the team. I dunno.
How many Spanish riders have won the Vuelta against the number of Italians in the Giro? Now they really make sure the Italian is going to win on home ground!
clear indications that people think Chris Froome has progressed way too fast
careful now, one person does not make people - a classic STW trait is to take one person's opinion and assume it has weight because of the strength of their belief and the plurality of their posts.
I'm finding it a musing that the convicted doper Valverde is accusing Sky of deliberately causing and taking advantage of his fall i.e. cheating 🙂 now he knows how the clean riders must feel
Big fat steak tonight for Bertie, I reckon.
Emmanuel - [i]Please[/i] stop posting that garbage. My eyes now hurt.
I personally don't care who is or isn't doping. The racing is all good, and I'm happy that Contador is back; he's very exciting to watch & forces the other to work & react. If they (the peloton) doesn't like it, then... Oh hang on, apparently they all do..!