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what vitamins do you take? i take multi's, with B1 and zinc. seems to work for me.
also whats the deal with B vitamins? I seem to remember that if you take two different types of B they combine well for metabolism?
all thoughts sensible and nonsensical welcome. cheers
Vit B12 deficiency seems to be quite common, as does vit D. If you're interested in metabolism then coconut oil is claimed to be good.
Someone will be along soon to rubbish this. 😀
I find a healthy diet suffices.
^ there, didn't take long did it? 😉
😀
As there's a topic on it, anyone tried the Centrum Performance multi vitamins?
No, I'm using BioCare multi vitamins.
Some research has suggested that there is an increased mortality rate in folk who take multivitamins - or maybe not http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23255568
Vit D (in decent doses) is the one we need
B12 is worth a punt too.
None if you eat a decent diet, and don't have any health issues then you shouldn't need to take any.
How many people eat a decent diet? Not too many me thinks, it's also hard to get adequate vitamins from diet because of so much refinement along with additives especially preservatives. Most people who do not train hard probably do not need vitamins although they are usually the ones with bad diets.
I take B-complex all year, Vit-D in Winter months and sometimes take a good Multi-vitamin if I'm going to be training hard( or can afford them)
How many people would know a balanced diet if it smacked them in the face? What ratio of macronutrients would a perfect diet be made up with? 40:30:30 50:30:20 ???
I can't turn the pedals unless I'm high on berocca.
Holland & Barrat, isotonic orange or lemon powder drink.
600ml of water + 1 scoop, 1/2 before and 1/2 after.
works wonders (also use when going to the gym)
calcium +d,cod liver oil(high strength)and centrum multivit 50+.
every morning
(a big reduction in iron when you are over 50)
After saying that, when the centrum runs out I am going to use Pharma Nord multivits, which are probably the best in the world
(web = multivits.co.uk)
they are in blister packs to keep them fresh.
You break the seal on a bottle of multivits and when you get 1/2 way through, all the trace elements,selinium etc... have disapeared into the air, not in blisterpacks.
Hope this helps.
P.S.as above don't forget your balanced diet.
Vit M
Vit T
Vit F
Vit U
😈
(a big reduction in iron when you are over 50)
Any links to that statement please? Thanks. 🙂
Thanks. 🙂
I've been taking an iron supplement for over 25 years. Also had a blood test done last month which was useful.
I would say that many women struggle to eat sufficient red meat. Do try and eat liver once a month though.
Interesting topic. Paul Offit has written quite a few interesting articles on the subject.
Multi vitamin plus and additional vit c + zinc tablet.
Since taking the additional vit c + zinc tablet I've had less colds, and I'm sure that I seem to pick up the lurgies of anyone on the train & tube. The first thing I do when I get to work / home is wash my hands, after commuting with the great unwashed!
How many people eat a decent diet? Not too many me thinks, it's also hard to get adequate vitamins from diet because of so much refinement along with additives especially preservatives
Sounds like a vitamin salesmans pitch.
Vit M
Vit T
Vit F
Vit U😈
Genuine LOL
A-Z multivit tablet if I've eaten junk.
C/Zink when I've got a cold
D/Zink/Calcium when I've got broken bones, can't prove it helped, but I was out of the cast and riding again in 10 days after the operation to plate it up.
I use quite a lot of vitamin I.
[citation needed]
Eat yer greens and a good diet. Your body is amazing, it doesn't need any horrible pills.
You break the seal on a bottle of multivits and when you get 1/2 way through, all the trace elements,selinium etc... have disapeared into the air
How does that work then? Sounds like magicke
Eat yer greens and a good diet. Your body is amazing, it doesn't need any horrible pills
+1
Why spend money eating stuff just to pee it out again?
Interesting topic. Paul Offit has written quite a few interesting articles on the subject. Thks for posting that, good read. Thought the last line was somewhat biscuit-arsed, though - Pauling did live to 93 years of age.
A great man - like the author says, Pauling's rise and fall was Homeric in its tragic majesty.
Not really sure bigjim ,micrograms of ingredients and oxidisation?
By the way, sorry not all the trace elements disapear, a few that are in very very tiny amounts.
I think the info was to me over the phone a while ago from their tech heldesk guy.
Anyway see - http://www.pharmanord.co.uk/
They seem pretty good and apear (as if by magic) to work for me.
You should try the vitamins the roadies used in the 70's and 80's
I'd rather spend my money on something I might actually need or enjoy - like nice food
How many people eat a decent diet? Not too many me thinks, it's also hard to get adequate vitamins from diet because of so much refinement along with additives especially preservatives
Sounds like a vitamin salesmans pitch.
WTF, is there such a thing as a vitamin salesman.
before a ride I drink Nae Danger from Irn Bru, here:- [url= http://www.nae-danger.co.uk/ ]Nae Danger[/url] its the dogs bollox 🙂 and no I'm not a Nae Danger salesman (JHChrist)
Nae Danger ftw 🙂
People don't seem to realise that the human metabolism is specialised to build vitamins out of most food, if you at least take a stab at eating healthy!
People in the hebrides lived to 90 eating porridge and puffins ffs! 😈
ADDS - yes I am seriously suggesting we eat puffins for health. There are loads of them!
I use vitamin EPO.
I can't believe so many people admit to using them. I thought it was just smelly hippie types and Mail-readers with too much money.
I'm aware that a lot of ones bought in supermarkets are actually pretty poor anyway. The form of the mineral they have chosen is cheap rather than readily absorbed so you aren't going to get most of it. The more expensive ones use different chemistries so the minerals are better absorbed. You need to pick the right ligands for things like Iron, otherwise you are just sucking a steel bolt and hoping to extract the iron. No idea if this is the same for the vitamins.
Also 100% RDA is typically a minimum not a maximum. If you take into account the fact not all of the tablet content will be absorbed and utilised then the likes of Centrum which contain 100% RDA won't provide you with 100% RDA. The Biocare ones mentioned above often contain something in the region of 3000% RDA to ensure you get what you want out of the tablet.
Sounds like a vitamin salesman's pitch.
WTF, is there such a thing as a vitamin salesman.
If you buy something, someone is selling it. The person seeling it has a vested interest in shifting it to make as much money as they can. The guys making the vitamins on an industrial scale will almost certainly employ people to sell and market their product. So yes there are such things as vitamins salesmen. They might not work like a double glazing man knocking on your door but they still try and sell the stuff by working out how to make people want to buy it. In this case convincing people that they need it for good health.
How many people eat a decent diet? Not too many me thinks, it's also hard to get adequate vitamins from diet because of so much refinement along with additives especially preservatives. Most people who do not train hard probably do not need vitamins although they are usually the ones with bad diets.
Interesting that you mention preservatives. I used to work in the food industry as a development technologist (I'm a chemist by degree) and the there is a huge amount of vitC added to things as a preservative. Plenty of fruit based products use it as it stops the product going brown (anti oxidant you see).
On an additional note "it worked for me" is anecdotal evidence. Peer reviewed studies with (blind) controls are the only real way to asses if things like this work.
Jomba if you are iron deficient then that is a sign there is medically something wrong with you.
I find a healthy diet suffices.
It's unlikely you get enough Vitamin D from your healthy diet (unless you eat a LOT of fish) and indoor jobs and crap weather mean most people don't get enough from the sun either.
Low Vit D is linked to all kinds of nasty stuff including MS.
Missus is an Endocrinologist. We take Vit D.
Vitamin E is where's it's at apparently
Had my vit D tested and level was very low despite riding in daylight twice a week. Also your skin needs to be exposed and I personally find this impossible due to the huge amount of overgrown trails that I use.
Interesting and informative post from jonba. I recently reviewed my supplements (take a lot for a permanent health condition) and have changed to better quality ones. Biocare mainly in fact.
read "The Health Delusion"
contains trails based conclusions.
We are all short of Vitamin D and the RDA for vit D is too low in this country - Canada have it right.
Food has a lot less nutrients in it than it used to.
It's unlikely you get enough Vitamin D from your healthy diet (unless you eat a LOT of fish) and indoor jobs and crap weather mean most people don't get enough from the sun either.Low Vit D is linked to all kinds of nasty stuff including MS.
Missus is an Endocrinologist. We take Vit D.
Also, Depression and SAD 😥
Anywhere better than Holland and Barrett to buy stuff from? Any trusted online suppliers?
Anywhere better than Holland and Barrett to buy stuff from? Any trusted online suppliers?
For anything in particular?
Any trusted online suppliers?
What are you concerned about? That the tablets won't contain the correct level of [insert trace element that is found in sufficient quantities in any normal diet]? You can't trust anyone that tells you that supra-normal levels of Vitamin C 'boosts your immune system' or Vitamin B for tiredness. So, in conclusion, they're all quacks including Holland and Barrett. Does that help?
We're fantastically well-off in this country. All the metrics show that despite the recent recession, we're still far better off with more free money than we were 30-40 years ago. And yet we choose to spend the spare cash on stupid things we don't need. Here's an idea: Cancel your monthly order with H&B and give the money to a charity that supports people who are actually unwell. Or send your vitamin tablets to Africa where they might be needed rather than getting 100% pissed out in the urine of mindless Brits.
P.S. There are a small proportion of people who do need supplementary dietary vitamins / minerals, and of course these people should take things if they've been medically advised to do so. I'd actually extend that to vulnerable people and those with illnesses that might affect absorption. But the worried well 30-somethings on here? Save your money.