[Closed] Violence is not always the answer

Yeah, cos three on to one is soooo big and macho and hard...

That, and assaulting someone is a lot worse than petty theft. If you're he kind of person who has such little respect for the Law that you're willing to break it yourself, then you're in no place to cast moral judgement over someone what has stolen something really.

Plus we have no idea of what the real story is; is that the actual thief, or did he buy a stolen bike in good faith, or what? Not a lot of info really is there?

And those 3 blokes doing the kicking; bankers. Can't even punch propply or owt. I'd have the three of 'em no trouble. Plenty of stuff lying about to 'defend yourself' with....

I guess i can do this to Don Simon for stealing music then?

SbZ better watch out for PhDs and Professors...

So, three people have filmed themselves kicking the s--t out of someone and we're expected to applaud them.

No thanks. I'd rather live in a civilised society.

I'd sooner watch three people being kicked and punched for their repeated use of the word "Bro"

set up

why did they feel the need to assault him, why didn't they detain him and call the police?

C0cks

I guess i can do this to Don Simon for stealing music then?

Perfectly acceptably except for hitting him when he was down.

But then again, if you've had a bike nicked, you'll have felt like doing this:

Not really.

cant see the video from here, but interested to hear about the music theft by DS, is this just typical common or garden copyright theft or did he break into your house and nick your vinyl?

While I'd not advocate a 3 on 1 to get the point across, I've previously gone postal on two lads who tried to disappear with my bike. I gave them a well deserved shoeing in my opinion and those calling for the police to be called, around here the bike would be gone before the police would even have their engines ticking over.

On the face of it that's sickening. Totally unnecessary. The force used is unjustifiable. The supposed thief may have had mental health issues or be otherwise vulnerable as per Elf's observations. At no stage does he offer violence, in fact he is passive and yielding. His alleged actions aside - those two thug doughnuts need locking up themselves.

"Street justice" reminds me how close we can be to the jungle.

those two thug doughnuts need [s]locking up[/s] a damned good shoeing.

FTFY

cant see the video from here, but interested to hear about the music theft by DS, is this just typical common or garden copyright theft or did he break into your house and nick your vinyl?

And for the video, a bit excessive on the violence front, there are other situations where violence is acceptable.

I sympathise with anyone angry at what amounts to theft that seems to go unpunished.

That goes for bike thieves and record companies who gotten too used to charging £13 for a CD that cost £1 to produce.

Don Simon, you shoud be a more upstanding web citizen like me, I don't steal music, I borrow it. If anyone wants it back, just ask!

I'm struggling to see the problem tbh, he got a little bit of pushing and shoving and fell over. I've done far worse and I'm a soft get. He got off extremely lightly compared to what I'd have done if he tried pinching my bike.

I'm still not sure of which law is the law that timc belives I have broken, my Russian isn't that good.

They should be glad they came across some feeble wee guy without an ounce of fight in him, half the nutters I grew up with would have bounced the 3 of them about the streets.

3 on 1 they could easily have detained him with minimal violence and phoned the police if they caught him in the act. No need for that kinda behavior. It's only a material possession.. A c**t if it gets nicked but it's not the end of the world.

some scumbag climbed over a locked gate into my garden,nicked my son's BMX that he'd saved for for over a year.
We called the cops,they turned up a week later,said 'yeah we know who he is,he does loads round here' couldn't do F all though.I now now who he is and where he lives,still he's a smack head,so that makes it all right in todays lawless GB then ?

If the cops can't do any thing,who can ?

oh,maybe he's got mental health issues ? or had a smack off his mom when he was a kid,or some such lilly livered do-good crap,TBH,I don't give a toss what his 'reason' or excuse is.

Bomber time is coming.

anyone notice the 2 bikes on the sheffield stand one has a seriously buckled wheel,and whats with him wearing a girlie helmet.

He obviously hads not taste.

That was ridiculously funny. Yo Bro....jesus.

Loving the Ninja moves of one of the Judge's, sorry meant aggreived parties.

bigbloke - Member

Loving the Ninja moves of one of the Judge's, sorry meant aggreived parties.

doesn't look real to me..

One if he'd really tried to nick the bikes he'd just leg it.

Two, who the hell films shit like that, instead of getting stuck in themselves.

The main attacker doesn't exactly stick it, when clearly he looks as if he could..

Then the perp walks into a store?

Sorry, not real.

Fake; when I used to know people who went stealing carried a chib as an exit strategy.

If he stole the bike and there is three of you, why not pin him down and wait for the police to arrive?

If it is real. It's pretty horrible. No one wants a bike nicked, but three blokes kicking the crap out of him is pretty disgusting.

it didn't look like excessive violence to me. A couple of slaps and a high kick, but not that bad really.

'kicking the crap out of him' ? Don't be silly.

I'm not being 'silly', I found it pretty disgusting to watch.

it didn't look like excessive violence to me. A couple of slaps and a high kick, but not that bad really.

Granted, those three blokes are hardly Chuck Norris, but it's still proper nasty and the bloke loos like he's proper scared, so bang out of order.

If it is real

Hmm. Be an odd thing to stage, woon't it? It is a pretty pathetic 'attack' mind, so you could be right.

Bomber time is coming.

What if, right, you go round there, and even though the bloke's a complete wimp, he gets proper scared and arms himself with a knife, lashes out in terror, slashes your jugular?

There you are, bleeding to death, over a bike.

Never underestimate [i]anyone[/i]. Speshly someone who's proper scared. Anyone who does not in any way know this, does not in any way know owt about proper violence.

maybe you did, but nobody had the crap kicked out of them.

That'll learn him 😆

..... nobody had the crap kicked out of them.

I would tend to agree with that.

I've had worse than that off my mates sister when we were kids !!!!

I really couldn't care what you think. I think he did, that was I was saying.

I've had worse than that off my mates sister when we were kids !!!!

You still fancied her though din't you?

Dirty little bastid... 😡

don simon - Member
He's got a titty lip

As if 🙄

don simon - Member
I said that record companies take too big a slice of the cost of buying music

yet you don't even know what that 'slice' is, how it comes about, the various deals that determine the 'slice', you have no info, just a general statement, back your argument up with some examples at least.

don simon - Member
in a previous thread I'd said I download.

you implied you take it for free & avoid paying for it at all costs.

don simon - Member
He then tried to tell me that monopolistic companies work to similar economic models as the free market

Did I? what i know is you don't have to be signed to one of these 'monopolistic companies' to have a successful career in music, again, you draw this conclusion because you actually don't know what your talking about.

don simon - Member
and that record companies are about to start a bullying campaign on Spotify to remove what freedom there is for the consumer.

No I did not, you have drawn your own conclusion, yet again based on a real lack of knowledge on how the music industry works.

Answer me this Don Simon. If someone makes a piece of music that people want to listen to, enjoy, own, why should they not receive payment for their creation if they chose not to give it away for free??

soobalias - Member
cant see the video from here, but interested to hear about the music theft by DS, is this just typical common or garden copyright theft or did he break into your house and nick your vinyl?

The normal copyright, except Dull Simon is to pathetic to admit its stealing, so we end up on this merry go round

timc - Member
Answer me this Don Simon. If someone makes a piece of music that people want to listen to, enjoy, own, why should they not receive payment for their creation if they chose not to give it away for free??

ps I also have a itunes account and a lovefilm account, go to gigs and the cinema..so my pound of flesh is still given.

The view that every illegal download is lost revenue is wrong.

coogan - Member
[b]I really couldn't care what you think.[/b] I think he did, that was I was saying.

That's nice.

Is anyone else supposed to care what you think ?

Or is it a one way street.

Elfinsafety - Member

Nealglover- I've had worse than that off my mates sister when we were kids !!!!

You still fancied her though din't you?
Dirty little bastid...

Sure did

Think that's maybe why she was always beating the crap out of me ?!

seosamh77 - Member
Cause I wouldn't buy it otherwise.

That doesn't answer the direct question though does it? in fact i'm not sure it even makes sense

seosamh77 - Member
It's not lost revenue to the record companies. Same with films if they weren't on the interweb, I'd probably see an awful lot less films.

So how is it not lost revenue, explanation please.

I suspect we are about to open a can of worms here where you think everything is the same when intact it is very different.

many many industries are changing fast due to the interweb.
you can either moan like fek or try to move with it.

timc.

Not really, as I'm not getting into it as i think my previous post explains perfectly well, and we're way off topic. Lets just say you aren't going to convince me of the evils of free downloads.

Embrace it, offer everything free and make you're money off advertising or something, as it's not going away. Get creative.

Not as if music will disappear if record companies go bust, so no skin off my nose, adapt or die..10 years and all you can come up with is more contrived DRM, try harder.