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I’m wondering about replacing the rims on one of my bikes. The present ones are fine, but they’re not too light.
Is it worth the cost and rebuild time to save a mere 120grams per rim?


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 11:44 am
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I guess the answer is probably yes.

240g over two wheels + the option to look at spokes? Thats 1/2lb of weight form an "important" area.

How heavy are your current rims?

What bike is it for?

On a side do you still have your Voodoo?


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 11:45 am
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I'd say no TBH, unless you can build yourself, and the hubs are in good nick, and you're lightening the bike otherwise, going tubeless etc.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 11:47 am
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Entirely depends on the rest of the bike spec - and your weight.

No point in loosing 0.5lb from the bike if you weigh 15st...


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 11:50 am
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Is it worth the cost and rebuild time to save a mere 120grams per rim?
do your current ones need replacing? and will the new ones be strong enough for you and the riding you do?
if yes and yes then go for it.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 11:55 am
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No point in loosing 0.5lb from the bike if you weigh 15st...

Unless you're going for a wheelset that is both extremely light and strong.

I test rode two bikes yesterday, a Carbon TRC and a Carbon Nomad; the TRC was almost 4lbs lighter than my current bike, the Nopmad was 2lbs lighter but both had wheels that were substantially heavier than mine and neither felt any lighter or quicker uphill than mine.

Swapping my wheels onto the Carbon Nomad though made that bike feel like a rocket compared to mine. Remarkably they also make the bike faster down hill. I let the guy I borrowed the Nomad from keep the wheels for a day or two and he timed himself down his favourite run (using Strava) and knocked two seconds off his previous best time.

The wheels are Easton Carbon Havens BTW and the bikes were from Pedal & Spoke in Peaslake.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:07 pm
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Yes, I still have the Voodoo, that has DT5.1ds that are light and strong. 🙂

Its for my belt-drive Kona A. Presently got Hope Pro2 hubs on EN321 (570g) rims. I'm happy enough to build them myself (if I can find the time)

Rims are in perfect nick, so my usual habit of only upgrading when bits need replacing is out of the window. This is an upgrade for upgrade's sake. Still, means they'll have some resale value.

Options are Superstar XC430 (430g) or mboy's Mavic 819s (450g) in the classifieds. The 819s would give me the option of running tubeless tyres too for more weight saving.

Oh yeah, I'm about 12st. Bike is about 27lbs I think.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:13 pm
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I'd say yes, but suppose it depends what type of rider you are

I went from
DT 4.1+Michelen2.1+Tubes
to
Stans-Olympics+RacingRalph2.1+Tubeless.

Im reasonably light 70kg/11 stone. I found a massive difference in times of speed across Berkshire type forest singletrack.

But if im going anywhere with lots of rocks I tend to put on my old wheels back on mainly cos the tires are a bit bigger. But also because I dont want to damage the wheels.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:20 pm
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that has DT5.1ds that are light and strong.
I presume that smiley face was there for a reason >500gm and pretty soft, I'm still using one currently but wouldn't recommend them

819s need inserts which push the weight over 500g UST tyres don't save you any weight, TR or normal tyres run tubeless may tho.
I'd say arch ex with tubeless would be a better bet for losing weight, or crests if they are strong enough for you.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:21 pm
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That 450g for the 819s doesn't include the nipple thingies*

*forget the correct word


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:22 pm
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819s weigh more than that once you add on the nipples IIRC.

If it were me, given the work/time/hassle, I'd bu putting something super light on there like stans, to make it worthwhile.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:23 pm
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smiley face was that I'm happy with them. Light and strong and being soft helps. I destroyed one smashing into a rick just after pinch-puncturing. Bent the rim right out of shape, but it didn't shatter, so I was at least able to gnetly coast home. replaced it with similar.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:24 pm
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No point in loosing 0.5lb from the bike if you weigh 15st...

not true


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 12:53 pm
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819s need inserts which push the weight over 500g UST tyres don't save you any weight, TR or normal tyres run tubeless may tho.

This and:

If it were me, given the work/time/hassle, I'd bu putting something super light on there like stans, to make it worthwhile.

This.

Arch Ex or lighter, or I'd not bother.


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 1:03 pm
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*high fives*


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 1:03 pm
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Lighten your back pack! Qty 2 std Mars bars = 120g .........


 
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That 450g for the 819s doesn't include the nipple thingies*

*forget the correct word

Eyelets?


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:08 pm
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I'm faced with the same dilema, I have 819's (which as someone else has said weight in at around 510g per rim) and I was looking at dropping right down to a stans crest. I think I could get away with that rim but I just can't be bothered with the hassel, that and I like the little extra security the 819's give.

However if you are trying to loose weight off the bike, thats the place that will have the most effect, not just purely in weight terms but in what you can 'feel' out on the trail.


 
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Yeah, +1 what Neil says^^. Just changing from heavy wintery DH type tyres to light fast tyres made a HUGE difference. I'll still carry your Mars bars tho........


 
Posted : 18/04/2012 2:23 pm