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Pinkbikes crack journalist is back on the case
This might just be the mentalist thread on t'internet. *
* Apart from Mumsnet sex beaker, obvs.
and it isn’t the size I ordered plus the (s****) warranty ain’t worth shit but otherwise everything is tip top….bit laterally flexy too but I’m (not) sure it will be fine😀
That gave me a wee giggle. Appreciate the honesty!
A good point from the pinkbike comment section. They are offering to refund anyone affected by the non arrival of the Marino frames, wouldn’t it be cheaper to pay Marino and ship the frame?
yes - but I'd bet my house they do not have the money to do either.
I am only on this for the laughs and if I was still awaiting a frame I would be very unhappy but have yu guys seen this interview? Its effing hilarious and clearly full of lies.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sick-bicycle-co-there-are-so-many-people-that-couldnt-wait-to-see-us-fail.html
+1 TJ.
I think they just planned to cuff it - quite literally. No real plan at all, just cuff it & hope for the best.
Turns out biznezzzz isn’t quite that simple hey Sick..
Is anyone on this thread owed anything ?
Or is it all just pointing and laughing ?
The OP is owed a couple of grand, one of their unpaid suppliers is on here too.
Not sure if any others are lurking, but there’s a list of folk on the pinkbike forum
A good point from the pinkbike comment section. They are offering to refund anyone affected by the non arrival of the Marino frames, wouldn’t it be cheaper to pay Marino and ship the frame?
Refund or supply a replacement frame! Presumably from Taiwan. So what frame or size or colour would you be offered and how close to your original order?
Seems a very odd level of interest for a couple of blokes with a handful of orders and no real clue what they are doing
@Nicko it needs quoting in its entirety. I can't find the original thread but it's frequently requoted in threads around 2010 attributable to Bigdummy who still occasionally posts. It soooo beautifully describes the situation and should be put on the next batch of Gnarpoon t-shirts...
It's a bit like watching that video of the rolling rally car the other day, but in slow motion, and the car is full of ostriches, and every time it rolls another ostrich comes flying out, and as each ostrich hits the ground it starts whooshing like a catherine wheel, and all the orange penguins who are watching the crash come running out with brooms and try and put the ostriches out by hitting them with their brooms, but the brooms just catch fire and the penguins panic and stat rolling around on the ground surrounded by exploding ostriches as the car rolls on and on spewing out ever more ostriches.
– BigDummy (STW)
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Seems a very odd level of interest for a couple of blokes with a handful of orders and no real clue what they are doing
That's the rub.
Sick courted the interest,stoked it, tried to use it to their financial gain.
When you do that you are risking a very public car crash should the worst happen.
Most on this thread are bemused and utterly and totally unsurprised by what has happened to Sick.... particularly as Sick are still effectively saying they are in control of the situation. It's completely bizarre.
I’d rather give front page coverage to bird or airdrop or starling or cotic than have 26 pages of this shite though
Well, front page coverage is transitory anyway, though I see your point.
As for the 26 pages here, it's purely optional reading to be honest. More to the point, it's obviously interesting to many as it has gone on for 26 pages.
I’d probably rather see everyone just look the other way I guess
If you look the other way then we can carry on and all is good, isn’t it?
Well, if nothing else it's doing a public service in a way nonk.
Along with similar threads on PB etc it has at least alerted potential buyers (or those being strung along for month after month waiting for a never to arrive frame) to the fact Sick are in big trouble and they might want to look at a different purchase/method of refund.
I’d probably rather see everyone just look the other way I guess
Yeah, just turn a blind eye to people getting mugged for thousands, in some cases, whilst the perps carry on, pretending to be the saviour of the bike industry, and telling anyone who criticises or calls out their lies to foxtrot oscar.
Waiting for a frame ordered in November. Delivery date est. Feb 15th. Then was told direct shipping ETA mid March. Then radio silence. Requested a refund in April. Zero response since then.
I feel like I have given them a business personal loan which I am unlikely to recover - or at least gather any interest from.
Tom mate you are completely obsessed with it man
I’d get out more
No protection on the payment Craig ?
I've been out to the cinema with my wife, Thanks. Saw Rocketman as my unlimited cinema pass gets me early screenings. 7/10.
Love how some people see me as the bad guy/loser in this saga
Rocketman any good ?
Never said any of that
You are obsessed with these two clowns though
No protection on the payment Craig ?
Used c/card rather than paypal which is my own fault - lesson learned. I thought I was dealing with a reputable brand.
I think Paypal has a 180 day limit anyways, so I would have been outside that too.
The count on the link below suggests 11 frames in limbo, but I am guessing that's the tip of the iceberg if Marino has 30 sitting there made from an initial order of ?60?
https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=213188&pagenum=1#commentid6735750
better than OK, not one of the greats though. as i said, 7/10.
Used c/card rather than paypal which is my own fault – lesson learned.
So you’re protected. Better than PayPal. Section 75, get claiming.
So you’re protected. Better than PayPal. Section 75, get claiming.
Assuming we're over the magic number of course.
Re the 11 (known) outstanding frames vs 60 at Marino I wonder if they maybe over ordered so the reason Marino isn't getting paid is they haven't sold 49 of those frames yet and) as we're all fairly certain,) the have no cash reserves to make up the rest.
Given their apparent ineptitude I can very much imagine "oh look we've sold 11 in a week. We'll definitely sell 60 in a month.
Oh...."
"Chainstayz look 30mm too long"
OOF! Harsh but true.
Assuming we’re over the magic number of course.
I doubt Sick were selling frames for under £100 🙂
I doubt Sick were selling frames for under £100 🙂
I thought it was 500 but it seems I was wrong on that
we’ve sold 11 in a week. We’ll definitely sell 60 in a month
I think there's a bit of that - there was a market for a dozen frames so everyone who wanted one placed an order and that was it.
I do worry that Marino is going to struggle to sell the other 48 in the same way that Sick have done.
I do worry that Marino is going to struggle to sell the other 48 in the same way that Sick have done
At over half the price and direct from a reliable frame builder with a great reputation I doubt he'll have a great deal of trouble shifting them.
This whole Sick! Saga will work in his favour, the word is out with so many, his audience is huge now.
Only problem is the Sick logo on them....
Shirley, whoever sorted out the Gnarpoon t-shirts (can't remember who it was - AlexSimon perhaps?) should get in contact with Marino and do a deal to supply Gnarpoon t-shirts, so everyone who purchases one of the frames gets a ltd edition Gnarpoon t-shirt thrown in for free!!
should start a crowdfunder for the marino frames then give them to the folk who initially bought them, any leftover cash could be used to take jordan and dimothy to court
"Only problem is the Sick logo on them…."
I would put another "O" on the end.
should start a crowdfunder for the marino frames then give them to the folk who initially bought them
Great idea but that's gonna be a load of hassle with customs, shipping to UK and then shipping to the correct people (kind of like the problem Sick had).
It occurs to me how appropriate Gnarcissist is for this whole sorry ordeal. I'm still far from convinced they're (deliberately) crooks, more they're idiots.
The analogy of someone so obsessed with their own image they've fallen in to it and are now in the process of drowning, still too convinced it's actually a lovers embrace to swim away seems markedly apt.*
*Admittedly narcissus doesn't die in ovid, he just becomes a hollow bitter man when he realises, I think the folks at sick sound like they're beyond saving themselves. Either way, this does feel very much like some sort of geek tragedy.
I’m still far from convinced they’re (deliberately) crooks, more they’re idiots.
Gnamateurs and gnarseholes.
Gnamateurs and gnarseholes
Sounds like my riding group just got a new name.
it amazes me that they still cling to the "people wanted us to fail coz we waz so cocky" line, no, nobody did. they were gobshites and edgelords but that was the marketing schtick. they need to get over themselves and just fess up/stop blaming everyone else.
they need to get over themselves
There comes a point when you think what you're smelling is the roses not the manure and it's very hard to step back from that.
Sick made Wiktionary !!
Under cluster****
Here’s a list of 30+ frames unpaid for by Sick! left sitting @ Marino. What else did they expect him to do?
To the Gnamateurs and Gnarseholes tag for them, can we add Gnobjockeys?