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I'm thinking of changing from my current triple chainrings to a 2 x 10 when they wear out. Has anyone who's done the same noticed that they haven't now got the range of gears to get them up the steep stuff, or are the gears just a bit more spread out?
I've lost a couple of the top gears that I never used offroad. I won't be going back to a triple.
I've lost a couple of the top gears that I never used offroad. I won't be going back to a triple.
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What is it about a double that you see as an advantage - [i]for you[/i]?
i ended up taking more and more gears off, now singlespeed for the winter. might put a cassette back on in spring (making it 1X9) but chances are i'll be used to SS by then!
I just took my big ring off and put a bash ring on, only time I miss it are the odd road commute to the hills on a downhill section, and no more bashing the ring on stuff means its win for me at least.
22x32 goes up everything
36x11 is fast enough
Both my mtb running 2x9
Both my mtb running 2x9
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miss the double and go straight to single.
Both my mtb running 2x9
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druidh - Member
What is it about a double that you see as an advantage - for you?
More clearance, less weight, no disadvantage. For me, of course.
miss the double and go straight to single.
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I wnet triple to double on my covert - so I could use a stinger to prevent annoying chain dropping when using the covert for what it was designed for, and a bash ring for obvious. Very happy. Never use the top ring. On the BFe I have a full on chain device and single ring. Haven't missed granny on that one yet..
Pimpmaster Jazz - MemberBoth my mtb running 2x9
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27*40 front, 11-34 at back - you only lose the granny gearing that you would hardly ever use anyway as you would have such little momentum you wouldn't be able to climb anything anyway as you would have toppled over. And if it is that steep it is likely you would be standing anyway to keep traction, and you couldn't use those granny gear standing.
Both my mtb running 2x9
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I don't understand the OP though
Has anyone who's done the same noticed that they haven't now got the range of gears to get them up the steep stuff, or are the gears just a bit more spread out?
Presumably you are thinking of ditching the largest chainring?
How does the largest ring help you get up the steep stuff? ๐
I'm guessing he's on about dumping the fat man granny ring.....
you only lose the granny gearing that you would hardly ever use anyway as you would have such little momentum you wouldn't be able to climb anything anyway as you would have toppled over. And if it is that steep it is likely you would be standing anyway to keep traction, and you couldn't use those granny gear standing.
FAIL ๐
I would rather go single front as said above. If I'm going to be running shifters, cable and a front mech I can't see any point in not just having a triple set up. On my triple I added a 26 tooth granny and this made the triple a lot more usable as I use the granny a lot now. I never once used it in the past. I also run a 36 tooth middle ring which is fine with a 11-32 cassette or 34, but I'm running a 12-28 cassette in 9 speed as thats all I have in the spares bin. Once that wears out I'm going back to 11-34 cassette but keeping with the same size front rings
Be glad when it wears out to be honest!
Or both, like I did.
26/38 with an 11-32, it's perfect for everything.
I'm guessing he's on about dumping the fat man granny ring.....
As a fat man I prostate myself to the STW riding gods who don't need a granny ๐
A 34 on the cassette is a good idea though .Doesn't 1 tooth on the back = 3 on the front or something?
ditched the granny years ago.
44/32 x 12/34 (9sp)
if you cant up something on a 32x34 then somethings wrong
(live in Pennines, not suffolk)
clubber +1 - Plenty of climbs where I am (Canadian Rockies) where no granny ring means lots of pushing.... 500m+ of climbing @ 2000m above sea level.. I live in the granny ring on the ups.
I ditched the big ring a while ago and didn't miss it until I started racing. Even then I only really used it on easy courses.
I am still on 9sp. I just took the outer ring off and replaced with a bash. I assume you are thinking of getting bigger chainrings not just keeping 22 and 32 at the front.
You should be fine, it depends on what kind of rider you are. I prefer to spin and stay seated so like lower gears. If you stand up a lot or prefer to push big gears then you'll want higher ones.
My knees say "Granny ring FTW"
22/36 here with 11-34 cassette.
Sometimes I spin out descending fireroads, which begs the question - why are you descending on a fireroad?
if you cant up something on a 32x34 then somethings wrong
That'll be a hill then. ๐
Didn't change anything on my heckler, just dropped the big ring in place of a bash. More ground clearance, and I never used the big ring anyhoo, except as a really grippy bash.
HT is 1 x 9 to encourage climbing technique and fitness, 36 up front.
I will never run a triple again.
I ride 1x9. 34 on the front and 11-34 on the back, 9speed. Love it, wouldn't go back, does all I ask and can't see a need for more except on roads going down steep.
So to summarise the first hour so far
44/32 x 12/34 (9sp) is right
26/38 with an 11-32, it's perfect for everything.
22/36 here with 11-34 cassette
27*40 front, 11-34 at back
22x32 goes up everything
36x11 is fast enough
and use a granny ring if you value your knees.
Fat men need grannys
And still no wiser on type of bike or riding or terrain
Glad that's all cleared up. ๐
since buying a new bike with 2x10.have no intention of going back to 3x9.you're only missing the biggest/smallest ratios.as you can use all the cassette with both front rings.also easier to clean ๐ as the saying goes "try it.you might like it!" ๐
22/36 on both my main bikes... 1x9 with 32 on the XC whippet. I wouldn't go single ring on either of the bigger bikes, the granny's only really there for the longest and draggiest of long draggy climbs but that makes it worth having.
I just don't get doubles at all, like I said earlier you still have to set a ball ache of a front mech up and have a shifter and cable and front mech, also still a fairly long chain. Why not just have an even spread of front rings? I can totally see the point in a single front ring the benefits are obvious to me. I ride a bit on the road though so the top ring is used. I can't help but think this is another fashion thing! I have run them all too, double, triple, single,
I went from a triple to a double and didn't like it. I lost the big ring and changed the middle from a 32 to a 36 but found that I had to change down to the granny a lot more and for me the increased frequency of changing rings at the front versus staying on the middle 95% of the time was a definite downgrade.
Still liking triples. If you never see the need for 44/11 then your bike is either too heavy or you really are riding in Calderdale or similar all the time. If only for a few seconds I appreciate being able to sprint 44/11 on canal paths and well used forest path...
Tried a double and on a 29er found I missed the littler gears, so not the thing for me on bigger rides.
Sticking with 3*10 - not found the weight/clearance issues a problem, but accept it might not be for everyone. It doesn't look cool either.
1 X 9/10 unless your a girl.
Sticking with 3*10 - not found the weight/clearance issues a problem, but accept it might not be for everyone. It doesn't look cool either.
You mean we can forget 11 x 2 or 3?
Thank **** for that! Enough with the different milk and breads already!
I have both a 2x 10 on hardtail 29er and 3x9 on my 29er full suss however in races i find the 27x36 on the ht just not easier enough on long climbs for if i get to a step up my legs are often to tired to give that burst of speed needed but when using my granny on the full suss i can drop down 1 or 2 cogs and then give that burst needed. Maybe at 53 i have missed the 2x10 boat. I tend ride in middle of cassette in both granny and mid ring and just use granny on the long climbs or technical rocky climbs
[i]1 X 9/10 unless your a girl[/i]
Who rides round Norfolk.
I have 3 x 10, ride Yorkshire Dales, North York Moors, Pennines & Highlands & I find a use for every gear!
van cough cough - MemberStill liking triples. If you never see the need for 44/11 then your bike is either too heavy or you really are riding in Calderdale or similar all the time.
Rubbish, is my 25lb C456 too heavy? The only time I've ever thought I could use it has been descending on fireroads and tarmac, and in those situations who cares whether you could spin it 1mph faster?
I have 3 x 10, ride Yorkshire Dales, North York Moors, Pennines & Highlands & I find a use for every gear!
This may be entirely true, but you may be surprised to learn that it is entirely possible to do the riding you do without using all the gears you have aswell.
I learnt this when redundancy forced singlespeeding on me. Running 1x9 on my trail full-susser feels like I have too many at times.
IMO, the gear thing is more about what you're used to than what you think you need.
Who cares as long as you're having fun?
currently got a 40x26 and it is fine, i did have a 44x29 a few years ago and it was fine until i came to riding in the alps, just a smidge bigger than i would like for a long climb.
Rubbish, is my 25lb C456 too heavy? The only time I've ever thought I could use it has been descending on fireroads and tarmac, and in those situations who cares whether you could spin it 1mph faster?
An On-One? 456 at 25lb sounds nice. I'm not saying a double is a bad thing. I'd like one bike with 2 x 9, but I live in Berkshire, and on the abundance of grassy and mostly flat parkland trails, the 44/11 gets enough use on every other ride to make it worth it.
I've run 3x9, 2x9, 1x9 and now I'm back to 3x9....!
I also have a single fixed MTB with just a front brake so I guess I've used just about every combo there is!
Entirely depends on the type of riding the bike is for - if you have any on-road or fire-road type riding on your regular route, I reckon you should stick with a "big" ring!