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WTF , so you can load up as many routes as u like on private,council,forestry commission etc for all to see and no one can do anything about it. Thus get said area overrun with bikers upset local residents and muck it up for everyone. Then move on to the next one.
Is this substainable ???
Thanks feeling a bit better now .
Just wait until you hear about Strava. Your head will pop!
I've uploaded one through your garden now. 🤘
2 threads with same stuff so I'll post my reply from the other one here as well...
Nope…but give @gavstorie a shout as he may be able to hide stuff on Trailforks system.
This isn’t just Trailforks though…been happening since social media started (someone posts up on a site and people go ride it)…
Yeah I know, I use Strava so I'm part of the problem but local spots will get fobarred.
Tried flagging up trails but been told I don't have enough kodos so they won't listen.
Someone has even set up a group to liaise with locals all they seemed to do is ride and report on conditions and promote more trails, pretty sure they have not talked to any locals.
Cheers Dick will give Gav a shout.
NIMBY eh @Blastit.
Those forestry tracks you want to keep to youself and your local mates? Tough t1tties - you live in a tiny country of nearly 70 million people.
They can be hidden over a whole area, my local stuff doesn't show up. Strava is full of it
NIMBY eh @Blastit.
Those forestry tracks you want to keep to youself and your local mates? Tough t1tties – you live in a tiny country of nearly 70 million people.
It is possible to develop trails sustainably you know. Not everywhere is Scotland/Wales with millions to spend on trail centers turning a hillside in Peebles into a theme park. Plenty of hillsides might be perfectly capable of dealing with local levels of use and the FC (or DIO, Landmark, or whoever) turning a blind eye. Slightly different if the internet turns it into a de- facto Trail center (Peaslake Stores is no longer serving non-locals for this very reason, too many muppets breaking the lockdown rules).
If everyone just built local in our plantation deserts, we'd have a shitload of trails to ride.
The problem with the likes of Surrey hills isn't the number of folk riding, it's the number of folk not creating their own.
The problem with the likes of Surrey hills isn’t the number of folk riding, it’s the number of folk not creating their own.
To be fair the bigger problem is there aren't plantation deserts around there. Even that area is mostly privately (or commonly) owned land. So there's inevitably more conflict.
The closest thing to a digging free for all might have been Swinley 10+ years ago?
Pinned posted a long strava route through Bircher Common. I may be mistaken but I understood that was all private.
The problem with the likes of Surrey hills isn’t the number of folk riding, it’s the number of folk not creating their own.
Folk creating their own is also very much a problem.
could you imagine if everyone who rides on the north downs built their own trail? it would just be one big trail.
I've not managed to find one useful trail on trailforks. Maybe they're successfully hidden from me?! Seems to be loads in Canada and USA (for obvious pinkbike reasons). The only ones I've found are the waymarked trail centres, so pointless anyway.
Komoot seems to have way more mtb segments to aim at, you can link them into a route. can't say if they are all on legit ground but probably nothing stopping anyone from creating them wherever they want.
Trail forks is pretty cack IMO. Strava heatmap for me.
Trailforks is a mapping resource. It pulls data from Strava, OSM, OS and multiple other sources. If there are trails in an area then they are liable to end up on the system. If you don’t want them on the system, delete them from strava, OSM and OS and there is less of a chance that they will be added.
If you are the landowner and you have unsanctioned trails which are listed on Trailforks, you can request to have them removed.
If you are a trailbuilder and you build unsanctioned trails on someone elses land, you can approach the landowner and have them request that the trails are removed.
I’ve not managed to find one useful trail on trailforks. Maybe they’re successfully hidden from me?! Seems to be loads in Canada and USA (for obvious pinkbike reasons). The only ones I’ve found are the waymarked trail centres, so pointless anyway.
Komoot seems to have way more mtb segments to aim at, you can link them into a route. can’t say if they are all on legit ground but probably nothing stopping anyone from creating them wherever they want.
There's currently 15400 UK trails loaded onto the Trailforks system. I find it surprising that you can't find a single one which is useful to you.. What area have you been looking in?
I also use komoot and there are significantly less trails on their system than there is in Trailforks. Komoot is a platform for routes rather than trails anyway.
Incase anyone is interested: UK Statistics
I have never got on with it either, the only trails I've even been able to find are places that you don't need a GXP file for as they are waymarked.
It's general coverage in the UK seems pretty poor but it's good for pointing you in the right direction in some areas, eg Golfie, around Risca/Wyllie.