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ok TJ why did you say I was wrong? you've not proved that.
Can I throw something else into the mix. Years ago I went touring in the Alps. My friend and I were riding near identical bikes, we had bar bags and rear panniers and similar tyres. His decending speed was significantly faster than mine. We put it down to his having Campagnolo Super Record hubs and I had some cheap Maillard hubs.
Could friction in the hubs add significantly to drag?
Al- have a think about it. You have got your exponential s muddledWind resistance is proportional to frontal area. Its exponential to speed.
So at a steady speed double the frontal area double the #wind resistance. As speed increases wind resistance increases exponentially.
My last post on this.
As I said I think there is confusion on both sides - you think we are talking about the same things but we are not.
Its in the imprecise use of language.
Why can you never accept that you might have got he wrong end of the stick
3 times this week you have told me that my experiences are wrong or that kit I have fitted to my bikes does no exist
In your eagerness to attack me you don't stop to think that you might have something wrong
mcmoonter. Identical physique and all up weight?
I've oftem wondered abou hub friction etc. but its at its least important when your going fast, that is least importnat relative to air resistance
mcmoonter. Identical physique and all up weight?
Almost identical.
Mmmm
Plenty of [s]bickering[/s] useful information, thanks folks.
I reckon the on/off public transport issues may kibosh the trailer idea.
I might consider getting a frame bag made up, if I can come up with a decent template.
Could friction in the hubs add significantly to drag?
after extensive totally unscientific testing with hope hubbed bikes v. cup and cone hubbed bikes with all sorts of different tyres, i am utterly convinced you CAN tell the difference, and that the hope hubs were better.
the 'test' involved riding along at the same speed down a tarmac slope and seeing who gained on the other.
Pete, no way! sorry.
but if your panniers were a few mm bigger that could have done it
😉 JOKE JOKE JOKE
Pete, no way! sorry.
I was convinced his hubs were frictionless and have lusted after quality hubs ever since. 😕