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Same on the soaking wet descents of stage 9 - any team worth their salt would have looked at that stage and the weather on it and said "OK team, it's the disc braked bikes with the 28mm tubeless set up today, get on it with it and don't ride into any rock faces".
And as said before, they may equally have looked at it and said well 90% your time on this stage will be spent going uphill, lets get out the lightweight climbing bikes. Careful on the way down.
Basically Boardman was saying that tubeless tyres are still too new
I don't think it's really a case of orthodoxy and I don't think the peloton is conservative (look at aero stuff, electronics, power meters, etc.) Looked at it myself earlier in the year and I wasn't convinced by the research I did.
Well, I've been planning a 504k route of my own. Only to be flummoxed by not having a Memory Card larger than 4GB in my Garmin.
Off to Currys I go.
While there's nothing much happening in the race...
I've always wondered about the rationale for tubeless tyres on the road. Off-road the main source of punctures is thorns and pinch flats*, which tubeless tyres can help prevent. But on the road, in my experience, most punctures come from shards of glass or slivers of stone, which cause more of a gash that a tubeless set-up can't always seal. Has anybody used tubeless on the road without a problem?
*unless you live around the South Downs where flint cuts are a real possibility.
^^ that was my conclusion. Pretty much all my punctures are cuts from shards of flint, tubeless not going to help.
I'm not convinced by tubeless on the road. I've been bouncing the Downs for donkeys years and yes I've had punctures from flint, but not convinced tubeless would be any better.. plus I carry a spare tube once every 40 rides or so and barely needed a spare TBH.
Clem Strada LGG 25's (tan walled..obvz) on MavM40C's.
Use the 30mm scwalbe s-ones as commuter tyres, no problems, fast, comfortable, no punctures, no reason not too.
Intertesting to hear specialized are thinking of suing over Sagan's DQ
Well its already gone to CAS...
Break slows down, peloton slows down 🙂 On the plus side I've fixed the lawnmower and didn't miss anything..
so D. Millar says spesh are suing the organisers for loss of exposure over Sagan's exit. not that they have previous experience of suing everybody
But on the road, in my experience, most punctures come from shards of glass or slivers of stone, which cause more of a gash that a tubeless set-up can't always seal. Has anybody used tubeless on the road without a problem?
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/videos/cycling-tech/tubeless-tyres-tested-destruction
so D. Millar says spesh are suing the organisers for loss of exposure over Sagan's exit. not that they have previous experience of suing everybody
Surely they've got that back in spades by Kittel winning all the sprints on his disc-braked Venge?
in the past I quite liked all types of TdF stage, but that was because I watched it on the highlights programme on C4.
Nowadays I have access to watching it live on Eurosport so I've realised that the sprint stages are really really boring.
ferrals - Member
Well not only have I discovered that Wanty are a construction firm.. you can also buy a Wanty Group Gubert replica bike !
this of course is why they get into the break at every opportunity, so the public notice the sponsors. Cube have been social mediaing the shiz out of all the pics and videos. they do a cheaper version to the Litening, in Agree form
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Nowadays I have access to watching it live on Eurosport so I've realised that the sprint stages are really really boring
Yeah but the TdF is like watching cricket. It's just something on in the background that keeps your day company - with the odd bit of excitement along the way and a lot of excitement at the end 🙂
Just turned the TV back on to see John Deg on the floor and Brian Smath prattling on about abandons (Cotaldo I know about) but mentioned Aru too..
Anyone know what that's about ?
spesh are suing the organisers
ASO is the organiser. Why would they sue ASO when it was a UCI commissaire panel that make up the race jury?
Sounds like shite to me.
They have even stated which regulation was applied: 12.1.040 - 10.2.2. (though I cannot find any indication of what 2 previous offences counted for this being a 3rd offence and subsequent DQ)
matts - Member
spesh are suing the organisers
ASO is the organiser. Why would they sue ASO when it was a UCI commissaire panel that make up the race jury?Sounds like shite to me.
Don't ask me ask millar, he's usually honest...well apart from the whole cheating episode obvs
Right, time for me to abandon this thread and await the highlights on C4 tonight
Yes. Sorry. That wasn't directed at you. 😀
I'm developing my multi tasking, watching tdf, keeping an eye on the tennis, surfing the web, helping with a crossword and playing with the dog..I am a multi tasking god.
Getting to the business end of the stage now.
Yep...hopefully the'll mop up the break and we can have a battle of the lead out trains.
Crash for Contador. Not a great time to have to chase back on.
I'm guessing it's not too bad if you're hanging on the team car..
Bodnar could really do with some twisty stuff. Looks like he's going to get caught under the flamme rouge.
Yeah at least Bodnar gave it ago...
Wheres Le Petit Bully ?
Getting a bit embarrassing for the other sprinters now.
#WattageBazooka
Awe, blimey.
He's clearly got a motor in that Mamil Bike..
Cant take a 5th stage away from him though, clear head and shoulders above anyone else.
Didn't see Le Petit Bully anywhere.. 8th, beaten by Dan McLay !!!!!
It's not about the bike.
A bit yawn in all honesty. Clearly massively faster but it does look like a club run with a sprint for the village sign where everyone knows there's only one winner but'll give it beans anyway.
So over traditional mass peloton sprint stages - apart from the Champs-Élysées which just feels totally different.
So so many ads before the ITV app shows anything. Just saw the most important 90 seconds on the day
Will tomorrow be any good ? Hope so.
Getting a bit embarrassing for the other sprinters now.
Chapeau to Griplell for his Tweet yesterday, thanked his team and said he was embarrassed by his performance
More chimp than gorilla.
nbt - Member
Right, time for me to abandon this thread and await the highlights on C4 tonight
Come back tomorrow & tell us what you saw 😉
A bit yawn in all honesty. Clearly massively faster but it does look like a club run with a sprint for the village sign where everyone knows there's only one winner but'll give it beans anyway.
A bit like a dad on a kids ride who takes the town sign sprint a bit too seriously 🙂
Yeah, won't be watching the highlights today I don't think, dull stage. Other teams need to stop working for a sprint and get people into the break, at least that way you can not work in the bunch. Lotto pulled it along for a while only for Greipel to finish 8th.
Gutted for Bodnar! Sooo close... but so far 🙁