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[Closed] Tour de France Stage 17 - Digne les Bains/Pra Loup - In the heart of the legend

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Shame to see a contender out through illness though it's part and parcel of grand tour racing, I guess.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:29 pm
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Interesting situation - Porte and Roche in the 28 man breakaway which is currently 2'22" up on the peleton.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:35 pm
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tdf web site says break of 28 @2:20 with Roche and Porte in it. Dave got a plan?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:36 pm
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tdf web site says break of 28 @2:20 with Roche and Porte in it. Dave got a plan?

Common move to put a couple of your lower-placed riders in the break. They can sit in, do nothing and then when the break gets caught, they'll be right up there well placed to help the leader.

Or, if the break looks like it'll stay away they can contribute to it and hopefully sneak a stage win for the team.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:38 pm
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I think Tejay ill could be significant as previously Sky had a team in BMC who might have helped close down Movestar & Saxo attacks, not anymore, it is all up to Sky.

Interesting Porte and Rocha are in the break, suggests they wouldn't have been able to hold on if in the peloton.

Aside: Hope BMC don't think Porte is going to win them GT's in 2016 'cos if so they are wasting their money.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:39 pm
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Common move to put a couple of your lower-placed riders in the break. They can sit in, do nothing and then when the break gets caught, they'll be right up there well placed to help the leader.

Sure but it is not something Sky do

suggests they wouldn't have been able to hold on if in the peloton.

perhaps this


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:43 pm
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Was going to say earlier that Porte, Roche and Thomas would be glued to Froome until the last climb... so eyebrows definitely raised here!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:47 pm
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Interesting Porte and Rocha are in the break, suggests they wouldn't have been able to hold on if in the peloton
Sorry, don't follow the logic of that. 2 minutes up on a peleton they're too slow to stay with?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:47 pm
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Sorry, don't follow the logic of that. 2 minutes up on a peleton they're too slow to stay with?

Once you're actually in the break and it's established, it's pretty easy to just sit there. The difficulty is getting into it in the first place, it can often mean an hour of breakneck attacks until something sticks and the bunch are happy to let it go.

That said, it's better than hanging on for grim death in a hard-chasing peloton all day.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:50 pm
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The suggestion is that they're getting a headstart so that if things kick off, when the leaders catch them, they'll then be able to help CF whereas if they're with the leaders, they'd struggle to stay with them when the attacks start.

Good tactics if the remaining Sky riders can stick with CF long enough (and with G's form so far, you wouldn't bet against it).


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:51 pm
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Porte and Roche in the break and Van Garderen dropped is ideal for Froome, couldn't be better. GC contenders will want to distance Van Garderen so they have a chance at a podium place so their teams will be pulling on the front, Porte and Roche can work in the break to keep the tempo high and are well placed if the peloton catches them.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:54 pm
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don't follow the logic of that. 2 minutes up on a peleton they're too slow to stay with?

As well as the point noted above about sitting in, it gives you room to slide backwards later on in the stage as you tire, plus you are not subjected to trying to hang onto the attacks of the main contenders.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:55 pm
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Or they could be covering the movistar riders in case quitanarama tries something


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 1:57 pm
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Contador is trying to get a gap but looks like Movistar are closing it


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:02 pm
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Feel sorry for poor TJ, he'd only just rejoined after a herculean effort to get back on and suddenly, BANG, it all kicks off again!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:04 pm
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Peleton is strung out and they have dropped Van Garderen


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:04 pm
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TJ looks in terrible shape.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:05 pm
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G in 4th overall as things stand then?

Edit: not yet but TJ is going backwards quickly.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:06 pm
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I went out for lunch (burp) clearly took my eye off this and come back to Porte and Roache' up the road??

Eh?

Valv's moved up a place in CG and Berties dropped one?

Pinots on a charge?

Wheres me little French fellas and "BeGorra"?

๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:07 pm
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TVG Oooot lads ๐Ÿ˜•


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:08 pm
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Disappointing for Van Garderen, that was hard viewing and I feel his pain.

Is there more illness than usual this year? It's almost like the cholera has swept through the peloton.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:09 pm
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Tejay abandoning. Feel very sorry for him. Had a very solid ride so far, think he was a credible podium chance.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:09 pm
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Is he in the car? We're on a break here in ITV4 land.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:09 pm
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Ooo

Is all I have to say currently.

Oh and I feel bad for TvG - crap way to go out.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:10 pm
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Poor bugger, work so hard to get to this point and you get sick...


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:10 pm
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Van Garderen has finished!!!. Just got in his team car


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:10 pm
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They are after Froome...nutter Barguil has gone off front ready to take everyone out on other side!!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:12 pm
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shame about TJ


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:14 pm
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Tejay, bless. Horrible to get so close with a good position.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:18 pm
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Poor TJvG, he looked devastated. ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:23 pm
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Sorry to lose TJvG, I regard him as new guard, helping to displace the tainted 'old guard'.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:26 pm
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This is shaping up nicely!
My desk is now cleared...


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:30 pm
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Sorry to lose TJvG, I regard him as new guard, helping to displace the tainted 'old guard'.

Yet oddly he doesn't seem to find it odd that his training partner from time to time is Lance Armstrong. Lance rides with him and motorpaces him when they're both in Colorado.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 2:37 pm
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That Lemond "recon" of the descent looked a bit hairy. Good for him that he's still going for it


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:05 pm
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Rear wheel skid from Lemond followed by a close inspection of a crash barrier ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:08 pm
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I liked Kelly's joke afterwards too


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:10 pm
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Kelly not only talking but making jokes- surely the biggest surprise of this year's tour after he's had a decade of snoozing in the corner of the studio?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:11 pm
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Yes, he really does seem to have come to life. Very welcome.
Worth putting up with Carlton's forced cliches ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:13 pm
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Kwiatkowski abandons


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:15 pm
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Kwiatkowski abandons

Tour of Norway coming soon.. ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:19 pm
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Sean Kelly is a bloody legend, his dulcet Irish tones are wonderful.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:19 pm
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Rear wheel skid from Lemond followed by a close inspection of a crash barrier

Quite enjoyed that. Annoyingly had a call so missed the one on Marion Rousse.

Funny seeing Lemond on a bike. Looks like someone's dad who's lined up for a Sportive but I'm pretty sure he'd still destroy most up and down hill.

Kwiatkowski sick.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:19 pm
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Just seeing Talansky there, it really has been a pretty anonymous TdF for Garmin Cannondale so far hasn't it. As I think about it, a fairly poor season full stop so far. How sad.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:28 pm
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Oof, Pinot down but back up again.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 3:39 pm
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Pinot's just fell off, very innocuous, back tyre let go when accelerating out of a corner, got straight back on and is off again.


 
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