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[Closed] Tour de France stage 12 - Montpellier > Ventoux - Half of a legend

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Cant believe what went on!

Ridiculous.

Give him and Porte Mollema's time I reckon


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:32 pm
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I hope Stannard is ok 🙁


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:32 pm
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Result should stand, it would be even more farcical to dish out random times to riders. And its a bike race surely running without one is against the rules??

No doubt riders will whine which ever way it goes 😡


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:32 pm
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When the red 1Km kite fell on to Adam Yates and also held up the peloton a few stages ago they adjusted the times though in that instance it wasn't a mountain finish so had the timing mats at the 3Km mark and could work out time differences and be able to adjust them.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:36 pm
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Give him and Porte Mollema's time I reckon

Sensible option. Not a mechanical. Not an unforced error. Crowd interference caused the issue - nowt to do with the racers.
And even Mollema will have lost 10-30 seconds against the chasing pack due to the crash so it's not doing down the other GC guys.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:37 pm
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And its a bike race surely running without one is against the rules??

I doubt it. You may find that the rider needs to cross the line on an actual bike but completing distance within the stage without one is unlikely to be against the rules.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:37 pm
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https://twitter.com/ITV4/status/753610586521530368


 
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what an absolute joke, no way can that result stand. I'd be embarrased to pick up the yellow in those circumstances. Obvious decision is to give sametime as Mollenma. If not and Froom is down to 6th then it makes the whole tour result totally irrelevant.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:37 pm
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Wow that's scary! I think the riders are entitled to whine at that one!
Times surely have to be adjusted, no rider error at all and the time turnaround that was a. on the cards, and b. that actually transpired would be a p*ss take!


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:39 pm
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If only he could make a deal with God, get him to swap their places...


 
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Commentators seemed to suggest there were no rules to cover crowd interference, just moto mechanicals. So there's no guide on if and how times should be adjusted in this sort of scenario. Guess you can't just make up rules on the fly 😕


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:39 pm
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I barely ever watch pro rider stages, but https://streamable.com/cqiw looks completely ridiculous to me, the motorcyclists and racers should have all the tarmac to themselves, free of spectators.

If this was rallying, this stage would be scrapped.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:40 pm
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the nice thing to happen would have been for the other riders to neutrilise the race. never going to happen however.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:41 pm
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from Froomes twitter feed....Awaiting jury decision


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:41 pm
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Froomes and Portes times can't stand they had absolutely dicked on Quintana. His race was over but if the result stands he'd be right back in it.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:42 pm
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they should consult the Labour Party NEC for a quick check of the rule book...


 
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the nice thing to happen would have been for the other riders to neutrilise the race. never going to happen however.

By the time they got there (some 30s down the road) they'd have no idea what was going on or what happened.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:42 pm
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French telly said that the rule concerning road blockages could be interpreted to include crowds, but its all hypothesising


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:43 pm
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It seems the race judges are trying to understand if they can take the times at the moment that Froome, Porte and Mollema crashed.

from http://live.cyclingnews.com/


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:43 pm
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It is effectively a road blockage, whether it's a bunch of pissed-up spectators or a train, or a herd of cows.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:44 pm
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TBF did the other riders see it? If not you can hardly expect them to stop and wait.

Unfortunately the race is victim of its own success.


 
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TBF did the other riders see it? If not you can hardly expect them to stop and wait.

Unfortunately the race is victim of its own success.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:44 pm
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@mrblobby - you can't realistically have rules covering *everything*, quite often they get introduced retrospectively in response to incidents like this, but the general guidelines can be applied. In effect it's the commissaires' wiggle room.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:45 pm
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If they don't neutralise it, what stops fans blocking the route in say the mountain TT after their favourite rider has gone by?

It would just get silly.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:45 pm
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If only he could make a deal with God, get him to swap their places...

😀


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:46 pm
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Couldn't they just have motorbike equipped with a flamethrower ahead of the riders. That should clear a path. I have to admit I find the mountain stages quite aggravating to watch on TV on account of the display of mass moronity by the crowd.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:48 pm
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It seems the race judges are trying to understand if they can take the times at the moment that Froome, Porte and Mollema crashed.

It would be the sporting thing to do. Movistar will probably complain but Nairo was falling back all the time and would have lost even more time by the finish had the incident not happened.

Drug cheat Valverde's sporting view...

"It's an accident of the race but these things happen in sport. They hit the moto and fell, but these things happen in cycling.”


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:49 pm
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Froome's just tweeted he's still in yellow.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:50 pm
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In the Pre-1st world war races, 'spectators' were known to attack riders they didn't like, block the roads and throw stones at them.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:50 pm
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Still in yellow according to Twitter


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:52 pm
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If I was froome I would have been tempted to ditch the shoes and leg it...it would also have made riding the Mavic bike a bit easier...

I find it unlikely the other riders didn't see it...they definitely saw there had been an almighty crash, as they rode through it.

Maybe they should all give the time back on the tt...stop 10 yards from the finish or something

Again obviously not going to happen!!


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:52 pm
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making up rules as you go along is only a bad thing if competitors would have ridden differently if the judgement had been known beforehand.

In this instance I cant see any competitor doing something different if they "knew" the race had ended at the crash.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:52 pm
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Can't wait for the highlights of this, sounds amazing! (although sadly for all the wrong reasons).

Gary Imlach's deadpan take on it all should be entertaining...


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:53 pm
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And Boardman doing an Alan Hansen impression

Shocking, just disgraceful.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:55 pm
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Posted : 14/07/2016 4:57 pm
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Corbyn needs to sort out his cycling supporters. Disgraceful behavior.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:57 pm
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Overall standings...

https://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/753618589031227392


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:57 pm
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Surely the answer is to make them all run it, in cleats?

Froome just tweeted that he's in Yellow.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:58 pm
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Ned Boulting:

To explain: They've given Porte and Froome the same time as Mollema.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:58 pm
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I slung this on Twitter, seems popular. A far more useful mavic service vehicle.
Just needs a couple of decals.
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I wouldn't trust them with this mind.
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Posted : 14/07/2016 4:58 pm
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According to the rules book, Froome should be disqualified for not completing the whole distance on a bike.
Good to see that common sense prevailed.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 4:59 pm
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Good to see that common sense prevailed.

I don't think many could argue with that. Any other outcome would have been an embarrassment for ASO.

What a stage!


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 5:01 pm
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Could Froome have 'borrowed' a bike from a specy? EDIT,obvs with the right pedals for his cleats..
Fiasco,to be honest I'm surprised it's never happened before.
It's an embarrassment for the sport,I think crowd control barrier suppliers are going to get a few more orders coming in!!
Cycling is going to be on the news for all the wrong reasons..


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 5:07 pm
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Cycling is going to be on the news for all the wrong reasons..

I don't agree - 'wrong reasons' are the drugs cheats. This was simply an unfortunate accident and it seems they are dealing with it.


 
Posted : 14/07/2016 5:10 pm
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Mountain stages, Alpe d'Huez and Ventoux in particular, always seem to bring out the total morons - people who've basically been camping on the mountain for a week doing nothing but drinking.

This is only the latest in a series of spectator related incidents so far this Tour. Froome elbowing one guy in the head (good shot!), Bennett colliding with a spectator and knocking her flying (he stayed on, just). Sure there's been a couple of others as well...

There's something similar every year. 🙁


 
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