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Nichetastic

Look! Look! It's even more niche than any other bike ever posted! FACT!

Silly bars? De rigeur

This week's trend? It's a fatbike. EVERYONE wants one, doncha know...

Cable discs? 'Cos, they're just [i]soooo[/i] much more reliable than hydraulics. Especially out in the wilds, being chased by grizzly bears, where I always ride.

Singlespeed? Look, I'm tougher than all of you. I don't need gears. I barely need a chain.

Made of unobtanium? It's a bike with wheels that weigh kilos. So saving 500g on the frame at a cost of thousands is completely justified.

That was quick RD.
Looks like you caught one almost straigh away.

Dribbled a little bit of tea with Nickf's answer 🙂

why [i]do[/i] they always have cable disc brakes. I have had one or two and they have always turned vile in the end...

"I don't need gears; I barely need a chain"....chortle!

That was quick RD.
Looks like you caught one almost straigh away

🙂

Cable discs? 'Cos, they're just soooo much more reliable than hydraulics

well they are actually, puncture a hose miles from anywhere what ya gonna do?

well they are actually, puncture a hose miles from anywhere what ya gonna do?

feel pretty damn unlucky I guess.

Just curious but fatbike, single speed, full bounce bike, when was the last time anyone punctured or damaged a hydraulic hose? Personally snapped cables or exploding housing have been more common on our rides.

And that's only been one in a blue moon decades ago.

puncture a hose miles from anywhere what ya gonna do?

Err, ride home using the other brake.

two brakes on a bike?, you've not got this niche thing at all have you! 🙂

Well one of us hasn't as you appear to have two on that there contraption 😉

Onzadog - Member
Just curious but fatbike, single speed, full bounce bike, when was the last time anyone punctured or damaged a hydraulic hose

Can't be arsed with this bleeding nonsense. Can fix them with the tools carried on the bike.

And BB7s work, are light, and not expensive.

May not cut it amongst the trail park hero fashionistas though.

It's a pity Swede, but it's not my bike 🙁

And BB7s work, are light, and not expensive

That's my problem. If they did what you said, I'd be fine. But my experience of BB7s on an 456 I had was just terrible. They never had anywhere near as much braking power (even when in perfect condition and brand new) as hydraulic discs, and in mud the pads wore out in about three seconds, negating their cheapness.

And the only time I've ever damaged a hydraulic brake was when I stacked the bike rather spectacularly in the Alps, destroying the RH brake lever and associated fitments. The way the bike landed would have made a cable brake unusable as well.

Bleeding? Yes, a bit of a pain. maybe once every 2 years. But winding in the adjusters on the BB7 every 30 minutes in gritty conditions was considerably more annoying.

Its just like every other fatbike, singlespeed, rigid - a ****ing pointless mess ridden by weirdos! Get a proper bike!

BB7s just need careful setting up, get it right and they are great brakes, do it wrong and they are as awful as any other brake poorly set up

Made of unobtanium? It's a bike with wheels that weigh kilos. So saving 500g on the frame at a cost of thousands is completely justified.

nickf - Member
"And BB7s work, are light, and not expensive"
That's my problem. If they did what you said, I'd be fine. But my experience of BB7s on an 456 I had was just terrible. They never had anywhere near as much braking power (even when in perfect condition and brand new) as hydraulic discs, and in mud the pads wore out in about three seconds, negating their cheapness...

Setup of BB7s is the important thing, and I find my BB7s work just as well as my Magura Marta SLs or Avid Ultimate Juicys.

As far as pads wearing out in mud, that's more a function of the pad material, and it happens to any make of brake.

BTW that bike weighs 27.5lbs so it's quite light for a fatbike.

Aren't the cable disks about low temperatures too?

Gosh, some angry dudes on here.

It is easy to dismiss stuff as 'niche', but if it is said too many times, then it looses all meaning.

Not everyone wants to ride a 5" FS 3x9 clone. Get over it 🙂

rOcKeTdOg - looks good, not sure about the handlebars though.

can i just point out ...[b]again[/b]

[b]rOcKeTdOg - Member
it's not my bike

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Its a mountain bike set up just how the owner wants it to look and ride using components they like. Why have so many people got a problem with that FFS. 👿

Nice!

chainslapp - Member
Its a mountain bike set up just how the owner wants it to look and ride using components they like. Why have so many people got a problem with that FFS.

It's set up well by someone who knows what he's doing.

However the trail park hero fashionistas feel invalidated unless they can get the masses cringing under their scorn. Sadly the scorn is wasted on fatbike owners because they are out there riding in all conditions on natural terrain, not hanging around the trail park cafe to hear it. 😆

So rOcKeTdOg, where did you buy that bike?

Can't see that I would need one but I would love to have a go on one

I've no problem with whatever someone wants to ride, but equally, yet another fatbike (which really is this week's niche bike) with the same old setup is just an example of following the crowd. Far from using "whatever components they like" the niche-merchants all seem to use the same bits of kit, hence my original post.

"But it's for riding on snow. And beaches." We get snow for a couple of weeks a year. And riding on beaches destroys your bike in about ten minutes; if any of the fatbikes being lusted over on this forum get ridden seriously on a beach for any length on time, I'll eat a substantial proportion of a hat.

Posting up photos of 3x9 bikes? Nope, I don't do that, and I can think of nothing duller. Then again, I don't feel the need to buy a new bike every ten minutes to fit a micro-niche that I've somehow persuaded myself (a) actually exists (b) I [i]must[/i] be part of to be at the cutting edge of cool (c) I need to post pictures of.

So knock yourself/one out over this sort of photo. I'll be here, cynically, wondering just how many fatbikes actually get, you know, [i]ridden[/i] after the first few weeks/months of ownership.

Anyway Rocketdog, how long did it take you to get all the parts together?

how much was it rocketdog, was it custom made or off the peg

I've never really understood why people get upset at what others are riding or doing. I've seen some pretty stupid bikes in my time, but if that's what the person wants to ride and that's what they like I'm happy for them. It's just like cars everyone wants or likes something different or needs different things to suite their needs, hell some people need tractors or wagons etc. what suites one persons likes and needs won't suite anothers.
Ultimately you have to ride what suites you and what you like, visually and practically, there's no point riding what everyone else rides if it dosen't suite you personally.
Nice bike too.

if any of the fatbikes being lusted over on this forum get ridden seriously on a beach for any length on time, I'll eat a substantial proportion of a hat.

paging coastkid to the forum please.

moose2008

+1

However the trail park hero fashionistas feel invalidated unless they can get the masses cringing

I fear that the only cringing going on around here is at you saying that.

😉

Does anyone ride a brakeless or fixed fatbike?

A brakeless beach (fatbike) makes sense to me if it wasn't for those pesky kids/dogs etc and a Carbon frame would make sense even if only to fit in with the windsurfers 😉

which really is this week's niche bike)

and it's only monday!

and it's only monday!

Carbon fixed beltdrive 29/24 fatbike tomorrow, I can just feel it coming...

Can't be arsed with this bleeding nonsense. Can fix them with the tools carried on the bike.

And BB7s work, are light, and not expensive.

May not cut it amongst the trail park hero fashionistas though.

Carbon fixed beltdrive

BTW Who's got the most ridiculous hat for nick to munch on? (and video 8) )

if anyone wants one, please send £500 deposit to my paypal address (email in profile) and i'll start knocking one up from some tubes i've got spare in the shed

RD your net's full to bursting.
You'll have to throw the smaller ones back.

nickf

I've no problem with whatever someone wants to ride, but equally, yet another fatbike (which really is this week's niche bike) with the same old setup is just an example of following the crowd. Far from using "whatever components they like" the niche-merchants all seem to use the same bits of kit, hence my original post.

You are getting upset over nothing.

Are 5" 3x9 26inchers not the "same old setup is just an example of following the crowd"?

What about CX bikes?

'Urban'?

Why get upset when a strain of bike design is explored by those that feel like doing that?

Why put everyone down, and write it all off to 'fashion', rather than people wanting to try new things and maybe find something to fit their needs. Heck, they might even have some fun!

nickf

"But it's for riding on snow. And beaches." We get snow for a couple of weeks a year. And riding on beaches destroys your bike in about ten minutes; if any of the fatbikes being lusted over on this forum get ridden seriously on a beach for any length on time, I'll eat a substantial proportion of a hat.

Coastkid lives a few miles down the road from me, and regularly rides his on the beaches. He is on this forum, and he has a blog where he catalogues his rides. Look him up, if you are interested.

nickfPosting up photos of 3x9 bikes? Nope, I don't do that, and I can think of nothing duller. Then again, I don't feel the need to buy a new bike every ten minutes to fit a micro-niche that I've somehow persuaded myself (a) actually exists (b) I must be part of to be at the cutting edge of cool (c) I need to post pictures of.

Yeh, posting pictures of bikes and talking about bikes and riding bikes is dullsville. Cynicism is the new niche for sure...

Coffee anyone?

Hey Stu, you are being remarkably restrained today my friend, have you a temperature or are you as sick as the rest of us of all the whining?? 🙂

7hz, I'm not upset, I'm taking the piss/pricking the bubble of nicheness. Seems I've touched a nerve with you. Emperor's new clothes, perhaps?

I ride in natural terrain, haven't been to a trail centre in years, and mostly use a steel hardtail. Irrelevant really; other people I ride with use full suspension bikes, other people ride rigid. Each to their own. But I'll agree that I am a bit of a cynic.

Oh, and as [i]one[/i] person appears to use a fatbike for the purpose intended, I've just eaten the head of a jelly baby. Who may have been wearing a hat.

chainslapp - Member

Hey Stu, you are being remarkably restrained today my friend, have you a temperature or are you as sick as the rest of us of all the whining??

No i'm just too busy enjoying riding all kinds of different bikes* to care what people i've never met think about bikes they've never tried.

*apart from road bikes because they are wrong. 😉

nickf - No nerve has been touched other than I think that the negativity and cynicism is unnecessary. I ride an aluminium 26" hardtail, albeit with no front derailleur.

I'm not sure what you are referencing regarding 'Emperor's new clothes', that saying doesn't seem to fit with this conversation. That saying is used in the context of pointing out the failings of people in power.

Live and let live.

No i'm just too busy enjoying riding all kinds of different bikes* to care what people i've never met think about bikes they've never tried

Couldn't have put it better myself and it looks as if Gary (RD) has gone to empty his net due to his absence?? 🙄

I'm out on my road bike, just so Stu can tut and shake his head....it's got 29"wheels though and cable brakes