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[Closed] Those hydration packs that sit low (around your waist)- Lumbar. Thoughts?

 hora
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It just looks 'wrong'? Surely feels like a spare tyre round your back? Apart from protecting your kidneys and keeping your back 'airy' what other benefits are there?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 10:01 am
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a few fat blokes on here use them and reckon they very good.

[url= http://www.wingnutgear.com/product_details.cfm?product_id=116 ]wok smugglers back pack[/url]


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:13 am
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You mean wingnuts.....


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:16 am
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I'm fat! It could suit me then? 8)

Surely the weight low down swings more with your hips? I.e. more noticeable?

I know its similar to Bergens etc.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:18 am
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you mean cock n balls...


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:25 am
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where are the seesaw of truth participants when you need them ?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:26 am
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where are the seesaw of truth participants when you need them ?

playing jenga 😉


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 11:29 am
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They are so much more comfy, you hardly know your wearing them,( im fat too). i used to like riding with a bumbag tho and wingnuts are just posh bumbags, since getting a wingnut or 2 actually, ive been selling my camelbaks, also if you do go for one try the osprey hydroform reservoir (2ltr) its the bolloks,


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:13 pm
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they ain't for you if you need to ask


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:15 pm
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they make a lot of sense, i used to use a waist worn camelback thingy and liked it

a good rucksack puts nearly all the weight onto your hips anyway, the shoulder straps are for stability. Camelbacks don't do this at all, all the weight is on the shoulders which is not good.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:18 pm
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Lower COG and much better weight distribution IMHO.
My wingnut Hyper 2.5 is head and shoulders above my old Camelback Octane 8.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:18 pm
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Riding with a pack on gives me a very achey (and sweaty) back. Do these solve it?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:23 pm
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I've got an Ergon BD1 which works on similar principles and sits very low on the hips only with a ball pivot arrangement for the shoulder straps which work really well. The weight doesn't shift about on your back and the pivot keeps your back from getting too sweaty - I tried Deuter Airflow before and this is heads and tails better IMO.

Well made but a little on the pricey side though mine has gone too and from work daily through rain and shine and is still going strong..


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:38 pm
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Yes, they certainly help. The back thing is a big + IMO. Very well made too, materials top notch sail cloth and well designed.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:38 pm
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they are the nuts. very comfy.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:53 pm
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Ok, Im sold on the idea. Thing is, can I utilise my current (almost new 3lt Camelbak reservoir?). The wingnut Hyper 2.5 mention's a 'square' bladder. A 3 or Ergon BD1 should solve this/be ok?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:07 pm
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Ah- the 3 can:

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/accessories/luggage/backpack/hydration-packs/product/hyper-30-hydration-pack-9581

Question though- the Wingnut 3- visually looks like its creeping towards the edge of a traditional backpack? Its principles (i.e. weight) are firmly on the hips/low down?)


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:09 pm
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guessing the hyper 3 will take the bladder, ive got the adventure which is a bit bigger and def takes my camelbak 3ltr bladder.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:10 pm
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My 2.5 is more than adequate in volume for general daily use. It does struggle to accomodate a 2ltr Camelback bladder tho due to it's compact size.

Anyone know where i can get a square bladder from 2 Ltr (ish)? The best i have found is a 'Source* widepac but this is a bit too long but will fold over.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:20 pm
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camelback used to do a wide bladder with the 'out' bit at the bottom of the long edge. not sure if they still do


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:30 pm
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I don't think so... i cant find one anywhere.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:42 pm
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The Hyper 3.0 takes a normal 3-litre reservoir no problem. Very light, very stable, very comfortable - sits low on the hips - and the big wing pockets at the side are great for carrying food, trail tools etc. My original once started coming apart at the belt/pocket seam, but was replaced under warranty. New one is doing fine so far.

Another option that does a similar sort of low-slung gig is the Hagløfs Ace.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:43 pm
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Im not fat and neither are alot of my friends who use them 😛


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:48 pm
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http://www.inov-8.com/Products-Detail.asp?PG=PG2&L=26&P=5050973013

i have one of these is spot on. once its on my back i can hardly feel the weight. Bladder is not as easy to fill as a camel back but it spreads the weight nicely round my lower back stroke waist


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:51 pm
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excellent packs. straightforward capacity comparison doesn't do them justice either, as it's much more useable space. my hawg always used to seem full, even when it wasn't.
buy a 2.5. when you don't like it i'll buy it off you for cheap. 😛


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:52 pm
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Have been really pleased with my Wingnut. Much more comfy - got shoulder pain with a Camelbak.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 7:00 pm
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The Inov-8 Race Pro 12 also looks better value at £40!

I don't sell kit after I've bought it, I tend to wear holes into them and keep them going till they die 😀


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 7:22 pm
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All sounds very interesting. I've been tempted for a while. So what baller does work well in the 2.5 wingnut or should I just replace my MULE with a Wingnut 3?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 7:38 pm
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I use the osprey 2ltr bladder in mine, it comes with handy magnet to attach to the sternum strap and a magnet on the mouthpiece, which is nice, the bladder also has a rigid plastic frame around it. It is a very good fit too.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 8:46 pm
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my mate is a runner - swears by inov-8 kit ... his packs had its zip replaced 3 times. ..

my 6 year old blowfish which is used as much if not more than his is fine ...

i am looking to buy a wingnut adventure but the 130 quid price tag puts me off a little but having looked at and had a shot of stus wingnut im convinced they are much better made than the inov-8 kit which seems to orientate its self on being the light side of durable - very thin materials and small zips used ! but its light !


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 8:52 pm
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...but its light
. Thats what sells it to me. The lighter it feels the better IMO.

Plus when you are running (assumption here) you sometimes tug at the zips to gain entry on the move?

Whereas on a bike you tend to reach whilst spinning along smoothly?

Thats a big assumption mind!...

Its not worth £130. I bet the Army have a single Bergen you know 😉


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 9:03 pm
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I use the osprey 2ltr bladder in mine....

in a hyper 2.5?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 9:32 pm