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I have read about them on ehre - who is it that makes them? What is the benefit head angle wise? Does the size of the mounting hatdware/pin make any odds (m8 as opposed to m6)
Kevin @ Steamer Industries or BETD apparently
Original link: http://dirt.mpora.com/news/slacken-head-angle.html
The size of the mounting, in M8 size, can limit the off-set available (4mm for the m8 verse 6mm for the m6) - but as you don't have a choice as to what your frame comes fitted with, it's not really of any odd's.
Benefits... it slacken's off your head angle, slow steerings but more stable at speed (especially downhill) but will also drop your BB, which may help with cornering but may also lead to bashing your pedals more.
I fitted a set to a mates brooklyn race link
its a company out in ireland.
kevin@watermarkeng.ie
the benefits of it depends on size of bolt used to hold in the shock. the brooklyn had an M8 bolt so gains were minimal. around a degree maybe. If you had an M6 the gains would be more significant.
zippy beat me to it
so with an M8 their is no real point is there
obviously some ppl think so, as they wouldn't sell em if ppl didn't want em... would they? 👿
I was gunna give it a go (M8 size), but don't believe there's enough space behind my lower shock mount, unfortunately.
zippy not heard of a placebo effect then?
anyone done it with an M8 mount?
They will:
1. completely transform your bike's handling and make you a riding god.
2. make ****-all difference
[b][u]YOU[/u] decide[/b]
2?
Yup. I got a set from Burgtec for my Orange 5. Lowered the BB by around quarter of an inch which is pretty significant. With my M8 bolts it meant the eye to eye of the shock shortened by 4mm. With M6 bolts it would be shorter by 6mm. Lower BB was what I was after and that's what I got.
Burgtec - £46 for both ends of the shock.
Irish chap - 20 Euros per end.
http://www.burgtec.co.uk/products/offset-shock-hardware/burgtec-titanium-offset-shock-hardware/
Kevin made me a set of bushings for my 2006 trance (6mm hardware). Noticeably Slacker & lower BB. with the fork at 110mm it is pretty much perfect for my local trails - fixed the only thing wrong with the frame for me (although the equivalent change in SA is not as desirable).. Just can't think of a better all round frame for the money than an old trance with a degree + knocked off the HA without having to go for a long fork & higher BB.
I got 2 sets from Steamer, but the only set that's had much use has ovalised very quickly. Steel bar through an aluminium spacer, which is machined pretty thin on one side, so not too surprising but I thought it'd take longer.
Still got the other set in the Dare, we'll see how that goes but the set for the hemlock are in the bin, which is a shame. Might try again with some steel ones, or maybe the brass ones off Pinkbike but it strikes me those might be brittle?
Ti ones from Burgtec may solve the ovalising. Might not do your size though.