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Saw it the other day, made me cringe.

Hope he was insured.

what a pillock. He'd deserve a prison sentence if that motorcyclist had been hurt.

That's gonna leave a flat spot on the tyres! ppprp!

That's gonna leave a flat spot on the tyres! ppprp!

and a big brown stain in his shorts

That's a tricky one to call has he awesome bike skills or terrible bike skills? Cornering fail, saving it awesome!

He'd deserve a prison sentence if that motorcyclist had been hurt.

In the same way that every driver who injures another road user deserves prison? He's screwed up for sure, but it's no different whatsoever to how most car crashes happen, and if you think every one of them should be jailed we'll need a lot more prisons!

In the same way that every driver who injures another road user deserves prison? He's screwed up for sure, but it's no different whatsoever to how most car crashes happen, and if you think every one of them should be jailed we'll need a lot more prisons!

I'm not sure of I agree with that at all..

I imagine that most car accidents happens because the driver is not paying attention..
not because they are recklessly endangering lives by driving well beyond their skill level..

Do people go to prison for driving dangerously..?
Reckless endangerment..?
Death by dangerous driving..?

was your statement an example of 'militant cyclist will defend other cyclists at all costs..'?

In the same way that every driver who injures another road user deserves prison?

cyclist just overcooked it, bikers were pootling along not paying attention

Who knows there wasn't D on the road, or he didn't have an unexpected brake failure? Well done to the drivers for managing to avoid him I say, and maybe lets not jump to conclusions about what happened from a 30 frame animated gif eh 🙂

It's all about road position. He should have been close in to the kerb then that never would have happened.

That cyclist was riding dangerously, too fast and WAAAAYYY beyond his ability to make that corner. If he had caused an accident and injury (or even death) to the biker, then what would you suggest his punishment be?
He's a road user and subject to the same rules.

I still get surprised when cyclists on a cycling forum demonstrate how much they dislike other cyclists.

TandemJeremy - Member
cyclist just overcooked it, bikers were pootling along not paying attention

the second one definitely looked like he was paying attention!

I still get surprised when cyclists on a cycling forum demonstrate how much they dislike other cyclists.

Unless he thought he was on a closed road he was way out of control - [b][u]if[/u][/b] a car/moto driver was that far out of their own lane and caused injury I'd expect (optimistically) them to be punished and so I would him too (as muddy said). He was bloody lucky that he didn't hurt someone.

TandemJeremy - Member
bikers were pootling along not paying attention

I've seen the .gif, I know all the circumstances that led up to that situation, and feel fully capable of voicing my opinion on what the consequences should be.

ITT: muppets.

There appears to be people on here that have never had momentary lack of talent/taken a risk/had a crash they probably also read the daily mail 😉

Unless he thought he was on a closed road he was way out of control

Thats an impressive ability you have there, being able to know all the circumstances from watching a 2 sec clip.

I've crossed the white line on a descent like that before, in fact i hit the wall on the other side of the road. Was I out of control, going to fast? No, I had ridden the route many times and knew the appropriate speed. What happened this time, I hit a stone and had an instant blow out on my front wheel.

How do you know something like this or a mechanical failure didn't occur? Accidents happen.

Aye Amos - and the person he'd most likely have hurt would be himself but [u]if[/u] the 2nd biker had been on the same bit of road going faster he'd have badly hurt the cyclist and then probably hit the rocks on the outside of the bend

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm ]temporary loss of talent, with mitigating adverse conditions too[/url]

How do you know something like this or a mechanical failure didn't occur?

I still get surprised when cyclists on a cycling forum demonstrate how much they dislike other cyclists.

you're one of those people who will kick an old lady to death because you're showing solidarity with your psycho friends...

If he had caused an accident and injury (or even death) to the biker, then what would you suggest his punishment be?
He's a road user and subject to the same rules.

so he'd get a 6 month suspended and a year ban maybe, as many drivers who kill cyclists seem to get. Just plead 'a momentary lapse of concentration'. Or a bee in your face, it happens..

I'm sure the media would claim there's 'killer cyclists on the loose' though, in classic man bites dog style.

Maybe those criticising and commenting on how dangerous all this is could think back over their years on a bike and recall how close they've been to doing something similar, a dog on a blind bend, a slide on some oil, sht happens. "There but for the grace of god go I" - also a basic reason why death by car rarely attracts heavy penalties from Judges.

Anyway, great clip, I feel his panic! I've done something similar clipping an A-frame road sign with my foot coming down Alpe D'Huez in about 15mins.. while descending like a care-free and dangerous lunatic. Clip / slide, hi-side bounce, swerve across the road into a recovery wobble and carry on. A memorable moment : )

Maybe those criticising and commenting on how dangerous all this is could think back over their years on a bike and recall how close they've been to doing something similar, a dog on a blind bend, a slide on some oil, sht happens. "There but for the grace of god go I" - also a basic reason why death by car rarely attracts heavy penalties from Judges.

Oh c'mon, I'm definitely in the 'have you really never overshot a corner?!' camp! The person who stands to lose most is the cyclist, it's a safe assumption he didn't go barrelling down there thinking 'I'll just overshoot this corner, no one will be there'.

I really can't believe the militant 'BURN HIM' people on here! Remind me not to ride with you, lest you report me to the police for missing a corner in the singletrack!

Wow. How fast was he climbing that hill for that to happen ❓ 😯

I've overshot corners on the road, even a blind one once - couldn't help thinking that I'd been a **** though, and pretty lucky

I thought that was very cool, fair enough he over shot the corner but the whole situation was intense, the motor biker moving over, the cyclist braking, all of it really.

That could have gone a lot of different ways, and it was very funny, always is when it's not your ass!

Boy, do I wish I was in the "I never make a mistake" gang !

but it's not about not making a mistake though is it..

if he was doing 70 in a 30mph limit in a pimped out metro you'd all be gnashing your mean pointy little teeth and taking to the streets to lynch the local teenagers and burn some virgins..
what a bunch of hypocritical mindless lunatics..

I flipping well despair

Not an accurate analogy at all......... (IMO)

what a bunch of hypocritical mindless lunatics.. (!)

No one got hurt ( luckily). Some pretty black and white verdicts on here , from some obviously perfect folk.

bikers were pootling along not paying attention

Are you being serious !?

If the second guy hadn't been paying attention the cyclist* would have ploughed straight into him.

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(the one who crossed the solid white line, totally out of control, for reasons unknown ?)

Anyone else think he was forced to stay inside of the line he was going to take by the motorbike that just overtook him. He then wasn't wide enough to take the corner and was braking heavily instead?

neal thats the way I saw it - yes the second on noticed him and took avoiding action - but they were on car lines and not much angle of dangle

actually looking at it again are they classic / old motorbikes? Maybe my initial comment was a bit harsh

Infact on another look maybe the cyclist is lucky they were pootling. I suspect I might not have had enough in reserve to avoid him if I had been on the bit of road the second bike was and was going for it. With your footrests on the ground its hard to manoeuvre altho not impossible. I rarely went over 8/10 on the road tho but those bikes were 4/10

I've no idea what the hell the rest of you are arguing about! The cyclist has to be in the right: clearly both the motorbikes [i]and[/i] the car driver are on the wrong side of the road! And what sort of sick lunatic would paint the double white lines yellow?! Jeez...

all Good points mintimperial

Anyone else think he was forced to stay inside of the line he was going to take by the motorbike that just overtook him. He then wasn't wide enough to take the corner and was braking heavily instead?

Clear cut dangerous driving. Just because he's on a road bike makes no difference in my mind.

He's lucky to be alive and definitely put almost everyone in that footage in serious danger.

Not me; I'm more inclined to think he was following or maybe even chasing the bike but it had better brakes (bike wasn't lashing it from what I see, seemed to have plenty in hand)

Possibly. It looks as though he had his foot down well before the corner as if something had just happened and the bike looks to have seen going faster than him. But as others have pointed out, it is impossible to see from a handful of frames on a gif.

"I'll remember that and go for the "shit happens and btw I'm a cyclist" defence as a way of not taking responsibility. Will it work in other areas of life too? "

Maybe. If that's how you interpret my post, feel free to try it, and have fun )

I don't know how youse can be so judgemental when you can only see half the story there, there's no evidence in that video for why he went off course, could be any number of reasons.

The level of trolling and hand wringing is immense on this thread, pure stw.