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[url= http://www.pinkbike.com/news/transition-bandit-2010.html ]Transition Bandit[/url].

Hell yes.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:07 pm
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We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike

🙄


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:09 pm
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for me it is my anthem x2.i could ride it anywhere in uk (obviously within reason)but for the riding i do it is perfect. 😀


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:11 pm
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We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike

Yeah, okay, but ignore all that and it looks pretty interesting. 130mm travel, 68 degree HA, 130x10mm real axle, reasonable frame weight...


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:14 pm
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This:

Where it all started back in the late 70's . . . well for me anyway!


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:14 pm
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Are you daring to suggest an Orange 5 is NOT the ideal UK trail bike? You might need to go into hiding!! 🙂


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:29 pm
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… it looks pretty interesting. 130mm travel, 68 degree HA, 130x10mm real axle, reasonable frame weight...

Hmmm, pretty generic when described like that really isn’t it…
You could be describing any one of about 40 odd bikes currently targeted at the “IT management/Semi-Radcore/quarter fat Latte please/Yes I am growing a Goatee” MTB Fad segment…

It’s a slightly less over-built Bottle rocket with an extra inch of travel... Groundbreaking stuff 🙄


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:31 pm
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The perfect UK trail bike?

130mm travel steel hardtail.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:33 pm
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looks right. you know how much?


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:36 pm
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"A lot of people will be asking why we have entered this category"

££££££££


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:38 pm
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looks like a wild hare from about 1999 to me (they [i]were[/i] nice though)


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:40 pm
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there's no perfect bike for the trail just a perfect trail for the bike your riding


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:48 pm
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Same as an 03 Heckler...


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 2:57 pm
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It’s a slightly less over-built Bottle rocket with an extra inch of travel... Groundbreaking stuff

not really, a bottle rocket is a 140mm travel overbuilt "slopestyle" bike that can happily take a ton of abuse. Where as the bike above is transitions XC full suss bike with slightly slack head angle and 120mm of travel, that will probably be slightly over built as that is a transition the bike company theme.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:10 pm
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regressive suspension? Do they mean this? Falling rate / opposite of progressive?


 
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Like Digressive but better 😀


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:15 pm
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I stand corrected last time I looked at a Bottle rocket was a 4" mini Gnarr bouncer, it's gained some travel but there we go...

Point still stands though the "Bandit" is pretty generic IT crowd bouncer... Not likely to set the world alight…


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:15 pm
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all these different axle standards is getting crazy
However dear boy, 142mm x 12mm (X-12) rear axle [b]is[/b] the future, 130x10 (i presume you meant 135x10) will be phased out next year. 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:20 pm
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On-One seem to have it nailed IMO


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:31 pm
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I want a bike with transgressive suspension.

Anyone point me in the right direction?

(Probably a Cove I imagine)


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 3:35 pm
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nope i think youll find my bike is what you are talking about
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Posted : 03/12/2010 3:44 pm
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ETT a tad short for the STW FR gnar core AM trail centre massives short stem combo innit


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:07 pm
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i quite like that transition actually 😳


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:11 pm
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It just looks like a Chumba VF2 to me only without the sexy rear triangle.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:16 pm
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Where it all started back in the late 70's . . . well for me anyway!

😆 Brought back memories...The Grifter


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:17 pm
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Cookeaa: I think you're confusing the bottlerocket with the Transition Double perhaps?


 
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I think it looks nice too.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:21 pm
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I'm sure when it first apeared it was a shorter travel rough and tumble machine, is/was the "Double" the one I'm thinking of?

Either way Short/no rear end travel Gnarr is where it's at in my book, none of this talent compensation bollocks... 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:28 pm
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I like it, but I'd still have had a covert over that if I was buying a Transition becauseI sold my Trance as I wanted to have a bit more travel.


 
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It just looks like a Chumba VF2 to me only without the sexy rear triangle.

And also without the horst link 😉


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:36 pm
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Anyone got any digressive biscuits?


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:48 pm
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It looks ok, sure it's fine, but it's not the messiah I don't think. Looks are a little underwhelming, but then I really don't like the Specialized thing they've got going on at the front; where the top and down tubes are practically parallel should be boxed, would improve the looks a lot.

Not convinced by the faux-bar arrangement though, it's just an over-complicated single pivot innit? Looks like a bike that will sell more on marketing (Look at our TR450, here's one you can afford) than on ability.

Maybe it looks better in different colours and maybe it rides better than it's looks suggest, we shall see....


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:50 pm
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...but it's not the messiah I don't think.

So is it the messiah or isn't it?!

Sorry. Bad day at the office.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 4:56 pm
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I don't think it is. I can't say any more definitively than that.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 5:00 pm
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It's not the messiah, it's a very naughty bike.

Not groundbreaking, perhaps, but just what I've been looking for.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 6:13 pm
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We've got a great video inside of Transition's own Kyle Young getting rad on the new bike

Is he having an endoscopy while riding? Now that's a talent.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 6:18 pm
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To play devil's advocate, do you need more than 100mm travel for the overwhelming majority of UK trail riding?

Andy

(DOI - ride a 100mm HT, which seems to be fine for most things round here)


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 6:32 pm
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nice


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 6:44 pm
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IT's not a case of need is it. Lets face it we all do this because of desire.


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 6:47 pm
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Another vote for 130mm hardtail as 'the perfect UK trail bike'. I accept that rear suspension bushing and bearing sealing has improved in recent years, but really, think about that Peak District Paste (TM), or the ability of south wales mud to churn through anything that wears.
SS is overkill (there are some gnarr climbs out there), but on the whole a hardtail'll do everything you need for the UK with the right compromise of abilities and maintenance.

[puts soapbox away again and sneaks off]


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 7:18 pm
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It looks nice enough, though a linkage driven single pivot (without ABP or DOPE). The 1 year warranty puts me off most though

"SS is overkill"
Are you sure you mean that?

To not be overkill surely you'd need less gears?


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 8:55 pm
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To play devil's advocate, do you need more than 100mm travel for the overwhelming majority of UK trail riding?

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/2010-a-year-in-mountains

Yup! Looks perfect for my adventures, might be my first paycheque treat...


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 8:57 pm
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120mm full suss or a hardtail
that is all


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 9:05 pm
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Came to this thread to nominate my most recent build - my 'full circle' [url= http://mamadirt.fotopic.net/c1553419_49.html ]Tazer VP[/url] but I have to admit that Bandit looks spot-on.

Hmmmmm . . .

Nah, the Tazer wins. I've ridden it every day for the last 2 weeks and I love it!!!! 😛


 
Posted : 03/12/2010 9:20 pm
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29er rigid single speed. If it's good enough for the alps it's more than sufficient for the poxy UK.


 
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